More Myths of Massage - massage and bodywork professionals2024-03-28T22:40:57Zhttps://massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A229666&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAbsolutely agree with your po…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-31:2887274:Comment:2346752011-10-31T14:49:27.313ZBoris Prilutskyhttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/BorisPrilutsky
<p>Absolutely agree with your post. Below is the link to overview of the subject. I'm hoping that it somehow</p>
<p>will provide more details.</p>
<p>Best wishes.</p>
<p>Boris</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scienceofmassage.com/dnn/som/journal/1009/sports.aspx">http://www.scienceofmassage.com/dnn/som/journal/1009/sports.aspx</a></p>
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<p>Absolutely agree with your post. Below is the link to overview of the subject. I'm hoping that it somehow</p>
<p>will provide more details.</p>
<p>Best wishes.</p>
<p>Boris</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scienceofmassage.com/dnn/som/journal/1009/sports.aspx">http://www.scienceofmassage.com/dnn/som/journal/1009/sports.aspx</a></p>
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<cite>Keith Eric Grant said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?id=2887274%3ATopic%3A152400&page=5#2887274Comment234380"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">That Science Daily article discussed a bit above refers to the paper <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19997015" target="_blank">Massage impairs postexercise muscle blood flow and "lactic acid" re...</a>. The paper, however, is based on an inaccurate premise and it doesn't provide anything new.<br/> <br/>
The inaccurate premise is that lactic acid is a problem. In fact, it is partially burned fuel. When the muscle mitochondria cannot process pyruvic acid as fast as intense exercise is creating it (in the breakdown of glycogen via glycolysis), the pyruvic acid is reversibly transformed into lactate. This process essentially halves the rate of acidification. Following intense exercise, blood lactate peaks after about 10 minutes (the time for diffusion from the cells) and then decreases rapidly. Pyruvic acid essentially is as the start of the aerobic Krebs (citric acid) cycle. This is all in any standard exercise physiology book such as McArdle or Scott & Powers.<br/>
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<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pnas.org/content/98/2/395" target="_blank">Lactic acid: New roles in a new millennium</a> reviews fairly current lactate metabolism research.<br/>
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I'll note that Diana Thompson did us a nice favor by writing up s prior, similar discussion as <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/2040/The-Lactic-Acid-Debate" target="_blank">The Lactic Acid Debate</a><br/>
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Here's a page from one of the editions of McArdle showing the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=L4aZIDbmV3oC&pg=PA218#v=onepage&q&f=false" target="_blank">rate of decrease of blood lactate</a> following intense exercise.<br/>
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Several years back, I collected a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ramblemuse.com/mmap/references/refs_sportsmassage.xml" target="_blank">number of references</a> pertaining to sports massage. The pertinent ones here are by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ramblemuse.com/mmap/references/refs_sportsmassage.xml#Shoemaker1997" target="_blank">Shoemaker et al. (1997)</a> and by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ramblemuse.com/mmap/references/refs_sportsmassage.xml#Hinds2004" target="_blank">Hinds et al. (2004)</a>.<br/>
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The first notes the lack, not surprisingly, of a change in arterial blood flow with massage. The second notes that an increase in superficial circulation with massage likely comes at the slight expense of deeper circulation. Apart from the error in premise of the Wiltshire paper, this would be consistent with the results reported there.</div>
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</blockquote> That Science Daily article di…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-31:2887274:Comment:2343802011-10-31T03:55:08.085ZKeith Eric Granthttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/KeithEricGrant
That Science Daily article discussed a bit above refers to the paper <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19997015" target="_blank">Massage impairs postexercise muscle blood flow and "lactic acid" removal</a>. The paper, however, is based on an inaccurate premise and it doesn't provide anything new.<br></br>
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The inaccurate premise is that lactic acid is a problem. In fact, it is partially burned fuel. When the muscle mitochondria cannot process pyruvic acid as fast as intense exercise…
That Science Daily article discussed a bit above refers to the paper <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19997015" target="_blank">Massage impairs postexercise muscle blood flow and "lactic acid" removal</a>. The paper, however, is based on an inaccurate premise and it doesn't provide anything new.<br/>
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The inaccurate premise is that lactic acid is a problem. In fact, it is partially burned fuel. When the muscle mitochondria cannot process pyruvic acid as fast as intense exercise is creating it (in the breakdown of glycogen via glycolysis), the pyruvic acid is reversibly transformed into lactate. This process essentially halves the rate of acidification. Following intense exercise, blood lactate peaks after about 10 minutes (the time for diffusion from the cells) and then decreases rapidly. Pyruvic acid essentially is as the start of the aerobic Krebs (citric acid) cycle. This is all in any standard exercise physiology book such as McArdle or Scott & Powers.<br/>
<br/>
<a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/98/2/395" target="_blank">Lactic acid: New roles in a new millennium</a> reviews fairly current lactate metabolism research.<br/>
<br/>
I'll note that Diana Thompson did us a nice favor by writing up s prior, similar discussion as <a href="http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/2040/The-Lactic-Acid-Debate" target="_blank">The Lactic Acid Debate</a><br/>
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Here's a page from one of the editions of McArdle showing the <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=L4aZIDbmV3oC&pg=PA218#v=onepage&q&f=false" target="_blank">rate of decrease of blood lactate</a> following intense exercise.<br/>
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Several years back, I collected a <a href="http://www.ramblemuse.com/mmap/references/refs_sportsmassage.xml" target="_blank">number of references</a> pertaining to sports massage. The pertinent ones here are by <a href="http://www.ramblemuse.com/mmap/references/refs_sportsmassage.xml#Shoemaker1997" target="_blank">Shoemaker et al. (1997)</a> and by <a href="http://www.ramblemuse.com/mmap/references/refs_sportsmassage.xml#Hinds2004" target="_blank">Hinds et al. (2004)</a>.<br/>
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The first notes the lack, not surprisingly, of a change in arterial blood flow with massage. The second notes that an increase in superficial circulation with massage likely comes at the slight expense of deeper circulation. Apart from the error in premise of the Wiltshire paper, this would be consistent with the results reported there. Acupuncture and Chinese Medic…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-28:2887274:Comment:2344152011-10-28T07:48:09.838ZGordon J. Wallishttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/GordonJWallis
Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine is a lot more intricate and difficult then just touching one point and causing a miscarriage. <br></br>
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<cite>Gordon J. Wallis said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234520&x=1#2887274Comment234520"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Well Ive never worried about massaging a Pregnant women any more then anyone else.. Ive massaged them at all points…</div>
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Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine is a lot more intricate and difficult then just touching one point and causing a miscarriage. <br/>
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<cite>Gordon J. Wallis said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234520&x=1#2887274Comment234520"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Well Ive never worried about massaging a Pregnant women any more then anyone else.. Ive massaged them at all points during their pregnancy. And I've done that in medical clinics and chiropractic offices. Ive never worried about specific points.<br/> <br/>
<cite>Gary W Addis said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234617&x=1#2887274Comment234617"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">the Shiatsu points mentioned by Adrian supposedly can cause a woman in 3rd trimester to start labor contractions too early. <br/> <br/> <cite>Gordon J. Wallis said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234616&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment234616"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Personally I dont see how a massage therapist can hurt a fetus unless he or she is totally unconscious, and or abusive...<br/> <br/> <cite>Gary W Addis said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234515&x=1#2887274Comment234515"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Adrian, I too am a student, and like you currently studying TCM and shiatsu. Six weeks into the quarter, I have been amazed at the effects on the body of Therapeutic Touch and Shiatsu meridian work. But I disagree with you (slightly) on a couple of points.</p>
<p>Any kind of massage therapy including energy work increases circulation; alcohol is metabolized at an established rate. Increasing circulation will increase the rate of absorption of any alcohol in the system. So, we agree on this. However, drinking water won't make you excrete your vitamins-- vitamin C and other water soluble vitamins perform their duties in the presence of adequate hydration--which I hope we agree is a good thing. In fact, you can monitor your health by looking in the toilet bowl. If a bit after taking a high potency multivitamin your urine stream is bright yellow, you're excreting prodigious amounts of vitamin C--meaning that you currently aren't fighting a disease. But if you're fighting a cold, your body will utilize all the vitamin C and the high potency vitamin will produce urine with a slightly green tint (excess B complex which is normally masked by the C). BTW, my choice of multivitamin is always the highest potency on the shelf. </p>
<p>As for the ancient Chinese therapies, they've been in flux for all of the 4,000 years--nothing, not even ancient Chinese medicine-- is set in stone. Shiatsu, an amalgam of Western anatomy and TCM wasn't developed until the early 1900s by a Japanese gentleman named Tamai Tempaku. Google "reflexology" and be amazed at how many totally different reflexology charts you'll find--they can't all be "the one." The chart you're being taught is probably quite different from the one I'm being taught. </p>
<p>Now, before I'm jumped on, I accept that the body still has its secrets--quantum physics has opened the minds of many who were once skeptical of ancient medical practices. Including me. A few weeks ago, on the first class of the Fall quarter, I announced to my fellow students that the energy modalities were all bunk, that its practitioners were either delusional or snake oil salesmen. Now, I'm not so sure. In class I have felt...something. Something strange and wonderful. My mind has been opened. Conversely, has yours become closed?</p>
<p>You're right to assume that, no, I probably won't choose one of the energy modalities for a specialty. But I won't scoff when someone claims to have received great benefit from one of its practitioners. When I encounter a condition that evidence-based clinical massage cannot effectively treat, and allopathic medicine can't fight with a drug, I will refer to a feng shui or shiatsu practitioner. In fact, just this week I did refer. A client has an inoperable brain tumor ,and she had given up all hope. I pleaded with her to resume her medical treatments (Western medicine) and simultaneously schedule a session with my Eastern modalities instructor, a lady who has amazing power in her hands.</p>
<p>I know Laura only through her articles and postings here on the forum, but without a shadow of a doubt I believe that Laura is open to all the possibilities, including the mystical wonders of TCM. </p>
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</blockquote> Well Ive never worried about…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-28:2887274:Comment:2345202011-10-28T07:16:54.913ZGordon J. Wallishttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/GordonJWallis
Well Ive never worried about massaging a Pregnant women any more then anyone else.. Ive massaged them at all points during their pregnancy. And I've done that in medical clinics and chiropractic offices. Ive never worried about specific points.<br></br>
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Well Ive never worried about massaging a Pregnant women any more then anyone else.. Ive massaged them at all points during their pregnancy. And I've done that in medical clinics and chiropractic offices. Ive never worried about specific points.<br/>
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<cite>Gary W Addis said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234617&x=1#2887274Comment234617"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">the Shiatsu points mentioned by Adrian supposedly can cause a woman in 3rd trimester to start labor contractions too early. <br/> <br/>
<cite>Gordon J. Wallis said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234616&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment234616"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Personally I dont see how a massage therapist can hurt a fetus unless he or she is totally unconscious, and or abusive...<br/> <br/>
<cite>Gary W Addis said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234515&x=1#2887274Comment234515"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Adrian, I too am a student, and like you currently studying TCM and shiatsu. Six weeks into the quarter, I have been amazed at the effects on the body of Therapeutic Touch and Shiatsu meridian work. But I disagree with you (slightly) on a couple of points.</p>
<p>Any kind of massage therapy including energy work increases circulation; alcohol is metabolized at an established rate. Increasing circulation will increase the rate of absorption of any alcohol in the system. So, we agree on this. However, drinking water won't make you excrete your vitamins-- vitamin C and other water soluble vitamins perform their duties in the presence of adequate hydration--which I hope we agree is a good thing. In fact, you can monitor your health by looking in the toilet bowl. If a bit after taking a high potency multivitamin your urine stream is bright yellow, you're excreting prodigious amounts of vitamin C--meaning that you currently aren't fighting a disease. But if you're fighting a cold, your body will utilize all the vitamin C and the high potency vitamin will produce urine with a slightly green tint (excess B complex which is normally masked by the C). BTW, my choice of multivitamin is always the highest potency on the shelf. </p>
<p>As for the ancient Chinese therapies, they've been in flux for all of the 4,000 years--nothing, not even ancient Chinese medicine-- is set in stone. Shiatsu, an amalgam of Western anatomy and TCM wasn't developed until the early 1900s by a Japanese gentleman named Tamai Tempaku. Google "reflexology" and be amazed at how many totally different reflexology charts you'll find--they can't all be "the one." The chart you're being taught is probably quite different from the one I'm being taught. </p>
<p>Now, before I'm jumped on, I accept that the body still has its secrets--quantum physics has opened the minds of many who were once skeptical of ancient medical practices. Including me. A few weeks ago, on the first class of the Fall quarter, I announced to my fellow students that the energy modalities were all bunk, that its practitioners were either delusional or snake oil salesmen. Now, I'm not so sure. In class I have felt...something. Something strange and wonderful. My mind has been opened. Conversely, has yours become closed?</p>
<p>You're right to assume that, no, I probably won't choose one of the energy modalities for a specialty. But I won't scoff when someone claims to have received great benefit from one of its practitioners. When I encounter a condition that evidence-based clinical massage cannot effectively treat, and allopathic medicine can't fight with a drug, I will refer to a feng shui or shiatsu practitioner. In fact, just this week I did refer. A client has an inoperable brain tumor ,and she had given up all hope. I pleaded with her to resume her medical treatments (Western medicine) and simultaneously schedule a session with my Eastern modalities instructor, a lady who has amazing power in her hands.</p>
<p>I know Laura only through her articles and postings here on the forum, but without a shadow of a doubt I believe that Laura is open to all the possibilities, including the mystical wonders of TCM. </p>
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</blockquote> the Shiatsu points mentioned…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-28:2887274:Comment:2346172011-10-28T06:55:05.590ZGary W Addis, LMThttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/GaryWAddis
the Shiatsu points mentioned by Adrian supposedly can cause a woman in 3rd trimester to start labor contractions too early. <br></br>
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<cite>Gordon J. Wallis said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234616&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment234616"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Personally I dont see how a massage therapist can hurt a fetus unless he or she is totally unconscious, and or…</div>
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the Shiatsu points mentioned by Adrian supposedly can cause a woman in 3rd trimester to start labor contractions too early. <br/>
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<cite>Gordon J. Wallis said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234616&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment234616"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Personally I dont see how a massage therapist can hurt a fetus unless he or she is totally unconscious, and or abusive...<br/> <br/>
<cite>Gary W Addis said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234515&x=1#2887274Comment234515"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Adrian, I too am a student, and like you currently studying TCM and shiatsu. Six weeks into the quarter, I have been amazed at the effects on the body of Therapeutic Touch and Shiatsu meridian work. But I disagree with you (slightly) on a couple of points.</p>
<p>Any kind of massage therapy including energy work increases circulation; alcohol is metabolized at an established rate. Increasing circulation will increase the rate of absorption of any alcohol in the system. So, we agree on this. However, drinking water won't make you excrete your vitamins-- vitamin C and other water soluble vitamins perform their duties in the presence of adequate hydration--which I hope we agree is a good thing. In fact, you can monitor your health by looking in the toilet bowl. If a bit after taking a high potency multivitamin your urine stream is bright yellow, you're excreting prodigious amounts of vitamin C--meaning that you currently aren't fighting a disease. But if you're fighting a cold, your body will utilize all the vitamin C and the high potency vitamin will produce urine with a slightly green tint (excess B complex which is normally masked by the C). BTW, my choice of multivitamin is always the highest potency on the shelf. </p>
<p>As for the ancient Chinese therapies, they've been in flux for all of the 4,000 years--nothing, not even ancient Chinese medicine-- is set in stone. Shiatsu, an amalgam of Western anatomy and TCM wasn't developed until the early 1900s by a Japanese gentleman named Tamai Tempaku. Google "reflexology" and be amazed at how many totally different reflexology charts you'll find--they can't all be "the one." The chart you're being taught is probably quite different from the one I'm being taught. </p>
<p>Now, before I'm jumped on, I accept that the body still has its secrets--quantum physics has opened the minds of many who were once skeptical of ancient medical practices. Including me. A few weeks ago, on the first class of the Fall quarter, I announced to my fellow students that the energy modalities were all bunk, that its practitioners were either delusional or snake oil salesmen. Now, I'm not so sure. In class I have felt...something. Something strange and wonderful. My mind has been opened. Conversely, has yours become closed?</p>
<p>You're right to assume that, no, I probably won't choose one of the energy modalities for a specialty. But I won't scoff when someone claims to have received great benefit from one of its practitioners. When I encounter a condition that evidence-based clinical massage cannot effectively treat, and allopathic medicine can't fight with a drug, I will refer to a feng shui or shiatsu practitioner. In fact, just this week I did refer. A client has an inoperable brain tumor ,and she had given up all hope. I pleaded with her to resume her medical treatments (Western medicine) and simultaneously schedule a session with my Eastern modalities instructor, a lady who has amazing power in her hands.</p>
<p>I know Laura only through her articles and postings here on the forum, but without a shadow of a doubt I believe that Laura is open to all the possibilities, including the mystical wonders of TCM. </p>
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Personally I dont see how a massage therapist can hurt a fetus unless he or she is totally unconscious, and or abusive...<br></br>
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<cite>Gary W Addis said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234515&x=1#2887274Comment234515"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Adrian, I too am a student, and like you currently studying TCM and shiatsu. Six weeks into the quarter, I have been amazed…</p>
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Personally I dont see how a massage therapist can hurt a fetus unless he or she is totally unconscious, and or abusive...<br/>
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<cite>Gary W Addis said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/more-myths-of-massage-1?page=5&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A234515&x=1#2887274Comment234515"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Adrian, I too am a student, and like you currently studying TCM and shiatsu. Six weeks into the quarter, I have been amazed at the effects on the body of Therapeutic Touch and Shiatsu meridian work. But I disagree with you (slightly) on a couple of points.</p>
<p>Any kind of massage therapy including energy work increases circulation; alcohol is metabolized at an established rate. Increasing circulation will increase the rate of absorption of any alcohol in the system. So, we agree on this. However, drinking water won't make you excrete your vitamins-- vitamin C and other water soluble vitamins perform their duties in the presence of adequate hydration--which I hope we agree is a good thing. In fact, you can monitor your health by looking in the toilet bowl. If a bit after taking a high potency multivitamin your urine stream is bright yellow, you're excreting prodigious amounts of vitamin C--meaning that you currently aren't fighting a disease. But if you're fighting a cold, your body will utilize all the vitamin C and the high potency vitamin will produce urine with a slightly green tint (excess B complex which is normally masked by the C). BTW, my choice of multivitamin is always the highest potency on the shelf. </p>
<p>As for the ancient Chinese therapies, they've been in flux for all of the 4,000 years--nothing, not even ancient Chinese medicine-- is set in stone. Shiatsu, an amalgam of Western anatomy and TCM wasn't developed until the early 1900s by a Japanese gentleman named Tamai Tempaku. Google "reflexology" and be amazed at how many totally different reflexology charts you'll find--they can't all be "the one." The chart you're being taught is probably quite different from the one I'm being taught. </p>
<p>Now, before I'm jumped on, I accept that the body still has its secrets--quantum physics has opened the minds of many who were once skeptical of ancient medical practices. Including me. A few weeks ago, on the first class of the Fall quarter, I announced to my fellow students that the energy modalities were all bunk, that its practitioners were either delusional or snake oil salesmen. Now, I'm not so sure. In class I have felt...something. Something strange and wonderful. My mind has been opened. Conversely, has yours become closed?</p>
<p>You're right to assume that, no, I probably won't choose one of the energy modalities for a specialty. But I won't scoff when someone claims to have received great benefit from one of its practitioners. When I encounter a condition that evidence-based clinical massage cannot effectively treat, and allopathic medicine can't fight with a drug, I will refer to a feng shui or shiatsu practitioner. In fact, just this week I did refer. A client has an inoperable brain tumor ,and she had given up all hope. I pleaded with her to resume her medical treatments (Western medicine) and simultaneously schedule a session with my Eastern modalities instructor, a lady who has amazing power in her hands.</p>
<p>I know Laura only through her articles and postings here on the forum, but without a shadow of a doubt I believe that Laura is open to all the possibilities, including the mystical wonders of TCM. </p>
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<p>Adrian, I too am a student, and like you currently studying TCM and shiatsu. Six weeks into the quarter, I have been amazed at the effects on the body of Therapeutic Touch and Shiatsu meridian work. But I disagree with you (slightly) on a couple of points.</p>
<p>Any kind of massage therapy including energy work increases circulation; alcohol is metabolized at an established rate. Increasing circulation will increase the rate of absorption of any alcohol in the system. So, we agree on…</p>
<p>Adrian, I too am a student, and like you currently studying TCM and shiatsu. Six weeks into the quarter, I have been amazed at the effects on the body of Therapeutic Touch and Shiatsu meridian work. But I disagree with you (slightly) on a couple of points.</p>
<p>Any kind of massage therapy including energy work increases circulation; alcohol is metabolized at an established rate. Increasing circulation will increase the rate of absorption of any alcohol in the system. So, we agree on this. However, drinking water won't make you excrete your vitamins-- vitamin C and other water soluble vitamins perform their duties in the presence of adequate hydration--which I hope we agree is a good thing. In fact, you can monitor your health by looking in the toilet bowl. If a bit after taking a high potency multivitamin your urine stream is bright yellow, you're excreting prodigious amounts of vitamin C--meaning that you currently aren't fighting a disease. But if you're fighting a cold, your body will utilize all the vitamin C and the high potency vitamin will produce urine with a slightly green tint (excess B complex which is normally masked by the C). BTW, my choice of multivitamin is always the highest potency on the shelf. </p>
<p>As for the ancient Chinese therapies, they've been in flux for all of the 4,000 years--nothing, not even ancient Chinese medicine-- is set in stone. Shiatsu, an amalgam of Western anatomy and TCM wasn't developed until the early 1900s by a Japanese gentleman named Tamai Tempaku. Google "reflexology" and be amazed at how many totally different reflexology charts you'll find--they can't all be "the one." The chart you're being taught is probably quite different from the one I'm being taught. </p>
<p>Now, before I'm jumped on, I accept that the body still has its secrets--quantum physics has opened the minds of many who were once skeptical of ancient medical practices. Including me. A few weeks ago, on the first class of the Fall quarter, I announced to my fellow students that the energy modalities were all bunk, that its practitioners were either delusional or snake oil salesmen. Now, I'm not so sure. In class I have felt...something. Something strange and wonderful. My mind has been opened. Conversely, has yours become closed?</p>
<p>You're right to assume that, no, I probably won't choose one of the energy modalities for a specialty. But I won't scoff when someone claims to have received great benefit from one of its practitioners. When I encounter a condition that evidence-based clinical massage cannot effectively treat, and allopathic medicine can't fight with a drug, I will refer to a feng shui or shiatsu practitioner. In fact, just this week I did refer. A client has an inoperable brain tumor ,and she had given up all hope. I pleaded with her to resume her medical treatments (Western medicine) and simultaneously schedule a session with my Eastern modalities instructor, a lady who has amazing power in her hands.</p>
<p>I know Laura only through her articles and postings here on the forum, but without a shadow of a doubt I believe that Laura is open to all the possibilities, including the mystical wonders of TCM. </p>
<p> </p> well I would have to say that…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-28:2887274:Comment:2343132011-10-28T02:37:27.072Zadrian lehmanhttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/adrianlehman
<p>well I would have to say that there are many of these "myths" that are not myths...pregnancy contraindications are very real. As a current stundet of oriental medicine and acupuncture I see the effects the points L!4, GB21 and SP6 are so powerful that I would never endanger the life of the fetus by ignoring them. If you need proof that alcohol reneters the bllod stream during a massage ask a client to have a few a while before they come in. If you need to see the effects of water on the body…</p>
<p>well I would have to say that there are many of these "myths" that are not myths...pregnancy contraindications are very real. As a current stundet of oriental medicine and acupuncture I see the effects the points L!4, GB21 and SP6 are so powerful that I would never endanger the life of the fetus by ignoring them. If you need proof that alcohol reneters the bllod stream during a massage ask a client to have a few a while before they come in. If you need to see the effects of water on the body take a mutlivitamin and then drink much water and see how fast your multivit exits you during unrination. Have the been research studies on this well the chinese have known these things for over 4000 years I am sorry western Med is so far behind that its like they are learning these things now but the attitude is "if western med hasnt thought of it it isnt "medicne" Please Laura I know you support the industry so please dont add more confusion by calling these things myths. Also it would behoove us to embrace these things as the focus will be turning to our industry in 2014 when the provision for preventive medicine utilizing cam techniques will be available to medicare and medicaid patients. We can use all the support we can get and not just more misinformation...the only massage industry myth I know of is that massage practitioners are all sex workers....see how that hurts us!</p>
<p> </p> Laura, some of these are simp…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-27:2887274:Comment:2338822011-10-27T01:51:34.575ZJanet Lawlorhttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/JanetLawlor888
Laura, some of these are simply priceless!
Laura, some of these are simply priceless! Thank you for this post. Ther…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2011-10-09:2887274:Comment:2306702011-10-09T20:32:10.265ZCecelia "Cece" Rexhttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/CeceliaCeceRex
Thank you for this post. There are many of these statements that I have heard and will take the time to thoroughly investigate because I want to stop sharing information which may not be true. Thank you once again.
Thank you for this post. There are many of these statements that I have heard and will take the time to thoroughly investigate because I want to stop sharing information which may not be true. Thank you once again.