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Do I need to tell my current employer I want to get a 2nd job?
I've had little to no patients the entire month of June. I plan on telling my employer I need to reduce my availability as I'm not being fully booked. Do I need to tell my
Employer I plan on finding a second job? Wouldn't they call my current employer for a reference? It would be in a neighboring city and would be a MT position. I currently work Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Saturday. My employer will most likely allow me to reduce my
Availability to thurs-Saturday.
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Permalink Reply by Relax & Rejuvenate on
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Apply the Golden Rule -- would you want notice of your employer reducing your hours, or would you rather they did what they needed to do?
Communication is always better than ignoring the issue.
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Permalink Reply by Shelene Taylor on
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How interesting - is this an area or a company that doesn't have return clients? Part of the success of any company/practice or therapist lies in their ability to retain clients and generate return bookings.
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As you mentioned in another post you are considered an employee which means you are under no obligation to tell them about a 2nd job. You have to do whatever you need to survive financially. Also, from my experience and what I have gathered from LinkedIn summer is the slow season for many people.
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90% of people in this industry use the term "hired" and "employee" incorrectly, so it is a very relevant factor in this discussion.
but again, why not have the conversation? I am thinking of taking another job because X, Y & Z...could lead to an interesting discussion and possible changes to your working conditions. Why give up on this without even trying?
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Sounds like you actually have a great opportunity here to explore some new possibilities. You are right that it is actually a joint effort - but I am a bit confused, if there is a front desk why are you making appointments and answering the phones? Does the front desk have a script for rebooking? Or do you? Are there no show and late cancel policies? What if you brought to the table scripting for these and met with the doc to share how you would love to help the busienss thrive and what would they think about implementing these scripts? what about you and the doc creating treatment plans together and offer a value priced package for the summer? I would be happy to give you my scripts - just contact me at shelene@iambiz.com.
Tee said:I work for a chiropractor. Not only does the doc have many return clients(some double as my patients as well) I too have return clients.
However I guess it's not enough to have me fully booked throughout my work week, every week of the month. The doctor, chooses my days an hours. At first I went along with that because it's the docs business and
I firgured the doc knows what their talking about, an when the best times for massage would be easily booked an available for clients. However it seems like it takes a joined effort to get my schedule full. With the doctors help, my help, and our front desk staff. I
Think when one of those 3 groups doesn't make an effort , it shows. I couldn't dare say this to the doc, as I'm sure they would be offended, and it just couldn't possibly be the doc or the docs front desk staff, as I imagine she would say or think.
I'm already responsible for laundry, payments, bookings, phones, courtesy reminder calls. I'm also expected to do frOnt desk work and take patients in and out of electrical stimulation. Which I'm not paid for. I'm paid per client. I have 15 min "brakes" between each session which I'm told is to talk and walk the client out
Check them out and make their following appointment, change sheets, use the restroom, rest, prep for next patient. However more often than not its all that plus, answering phones checking in chiropractic patients, making their appts taking their payments. Putting them on/off electrical stimmulation.
At the begining of the month I had gone out of town for 2 weeks. Upon my return I was told I was fully booked for the week. However, throughout the week I was never near fully booked. We had less than 24 hr cancelations they didn't charge. Many of the "patients" I saw that week were staff members, which I do not receive regular pay for.
I do everything I can to generate new/return clients. Aside from give the best massage that I can give. I love what I do and I love my patients.
Shelene Taylor said:How interesting - is this an area or a company that doesn't have return clients? Part of the success of any company/practice or therapist lies in their ability to retain clients and generate return bookings.
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Permalink Reply by Lee Edelberg on
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I agree....over and over people seem to be confused about whether they are employees or self-employed.
It's hugely different, and if you're uncertain which you are then you have no frame of reference from which to analyze and
make decisions regarding your situation.
Relax & Rejuvenate said:90% of people in this industry use the term "hired" and "employee" incorrectly, so it is a very relevant factor in this discussion.
but again, why not have the conversation? I am thinking of taking another job because X, Y & Z...could lead to an interesting discussion and possible changes to your working conditions. Why give up on this without even trying?
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Permalink Reply by Gordon J. Wallis on
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Do you get a receipt with your pay check that shows taxes being removed, SSN and so on?...If you do.. You are employed. An employee.. If not, you are an independent contractor.
Tee said:If someone could be so kind, as to inform me of what the difference between hired vs employee is. I'd be much obliged.
I was certain Im an employee. Now I'm not sure.......
Lee Edelberg said:I agree....over and over people seem to be confused about whether they are employees or self-employed.
It's hugely different, and if you're uncertain which you are then you have no frame of reference from which to analyze and
make decisions regarding your situation.
Relax & Rejuvenate said:90% of people in this industry use the term "hired" and "employee" incorrectly, so it is a very relevant factor in this discussion.
but again, why not have the conversation? I am thinking of taking another job because X, Y & Z...could lead to an interesting discussion and possible changes to your working conditions. Why give up on this without even trying?
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An employee typically gets paid by the hour and as far as I know must receive at least Federal minimum wage. Do you receive at least minimum wage for all the time you are there?
The employer sets your hours and directs your activities. Very importantly, the employer withholds taxes from your paycheck and pays into your social security and other state/federally required programs.
I don't know about the laundry thing...I would think you would need to be compensated for that since it is an expense of the chiropractor's business, not yours (if you are an employee, you don't HAVE a business in that context). But I don't have any experience working in a setting like that so I don't know. Maybe R&R does.
What can happen is that some employers will use someone like an employee but then not take care of their end of the business via witholding and claim that the person is an independent contractor. It sounds like your chirporactor may be doing that. And it is illegal.
L.
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It is a great myth that being an employee means you must be paid by the hour.
Lots of jobs are 100% commission for employees -- sales in particular.
#1 -- your employer must compensate you NO LESS THAN Federal minimum wage * Hours worked (regardless of your duties, reception, massage, laundry) each pay period. Except in parts of CA, this amount may also include tips to get you to the MW standard, so ti does not sound like this is a violation of any labor standards
#2 -- unless you have a written job description that limits your work to the duties in that description, then you signed up for whatever whenever. So long as laundry, etc are done on company time,and condition #1 is met, ti is all fair game
#3 -- from your other post, it looks like the laundry was being done on "your time". That is a no-no. Paying you an allowance for washer use and supplies is permissible, and a common practice (when I was a photographer, the newspaper gave me an equipment allowance, but I had to buy and fix all my own gear), but they should be paying you for your time. That being said, one can argue the "time" spent doing laundry is just the few minutes of loading and unloading of the loads since the machine is doing the work after that, leaving you free to cook dinner, walk the dog or read a book.
#4 -- again, TALK ABOUT THIS. Don't come here looking for validation just to go. Have the conversation. "confrontation" is hard, most people avoid it. No one gets anything worth having waiting to stumble upon it or having it given to them -- you have to ask for it, so ask your current employer for a change in compensation and duties. You may not get it, but that leaves you no worse off than you are now.
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Most full time positions in massage now adays consists of 24hrs of availability. Are you paid hourly or per client? Summer months are slow overall, people are on vacation, have kids in summer camps (extra bills...). Open communication is always the best rule. Conflict of interest is a concern in business, as you said you would look further-great outlook. Maybe running specials to your existing clients will boost some business. Consider cost and time you will invest in looking somewhere else. Its always better to tough it out where you are if these costs are too high. Are you in a medical setting where clients are billed thru insurance or they come on their own? If by insurance mostly, maybe their coverage is over, it would be good to experience a spa or salon setting where most clients come on their own. You can work less days at your present job and see what the best days for a spa/salon are for you (Fri to Sun for the salon), and you can work at both. Yes most businesses will contact current and previous employers, and if being slow is the only reason, you probably wont have a hard time getting a great referal.
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