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We all see nationally what the "trends" are in the massage business. What are you all seeing here in the heartland? I'm talking modality, marketing, service specialties, client booking, etc. I'm really interested to know what else is going on outside my little corner of the state!
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Permalink Reply by Pat Ward on
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What I have been seeing is the rise in popularity of the membership massage clinics such as Massage Envy, where a member pays a monthly membership fee and get massages at a reduced rate, Due to the economy, many people have not been able to get massages as much as usual. Many therapists I know have had to reduce their prices to get and keep clients coming back. People are going for the more no frills approach to massage, keeping the expensive day spas and salons only for a rare luxury like birthdays and weddings. In order to get and keep clients coming back, pricing is a major issue. Massage Envy seems to have cornered the market on inexpensive, fairly well done massages. The clinic are spouting up all over the state right now.
One trend I find disturbing is that now almost anyone can perform massage in a medical setting such as a doctor office and chiro offices provider they are supervised by a qualified medical professional. This not only takes jobs away from a licensed therapist but also can be potentially harmful to the patient if the person does not know what he or she is doing.I am hoping this does not become a trend in Illinois. -
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Permalink Reply by Marissa on
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Good old SB318! If that bill is passed it would be catastrophic! Pardon the drama. However, I do have it in the back of my mind that if a physician or chiropractor is worth their salt they would NEVER have an untrained/unlicensed employee do massage on their patients. To my way of thinking, it would show a serious lapse in judgement, character, and concern for patient wellfare to do so. Many massage therapists refer clients to physicians/chiros and those to implement this proposal would lose respect and referrals from those licensed therapists. It would be a viscious circle. A no-win situation that would not have the patient/client in the best care. That is the heart of what LMTs strive to achieve. Total client focus. What is best for the client. Will these "other" employees have the same regard? Will they take heart "DO NO HARM" !?!?!
Pat Ward said:What I have been seeing is the rise in popularity of the membership massage clinics such as Massage Envy, where a member pays a monthly membership fee and get massages at a reduced rate, Due to the economy, many people have not been able to get massages as much as usual. Many therapists I know have had to reduce their prices to get and keep clients coming back. People are going for the more no frills approach to massage, keeping the expensive day spas and salons only for a rare luxury like birthdays and weddings. In order to get and keep clients coming back, pricing is a major issue. Massage Envy seems to have cornered the market on inexpensive, fairly well done massages. The clinic are spouting up all over the state right now.
One trend I find disturbing is that now almost anyone can perform massage in a medical setting such as a doctor office and chiro offices provider they are supervised by a qualified medical professional. This not only takes jobs away from a licensed therapist but also can be potentially harmful to the patient if the person does not know what he or she is doing.I am hoping this does not become a trend in Illinois. -
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Well I am not sure that is true because just yesterday I met a girl who was working in a PT office and she is doing massage on patients already and she had not even taken A&P yet! She is going to begin the PTA program at a local college which is all well and good but to not have even taken anatomy yet and already working on patients is just plain scary to me. How many patients do you think would ask to see the person's license before they let someone touch him? I would because I know better but a lot of people would just assume the person knew what they were doing. Not so people, so be sure to check before you let anyone touch you! Just my two cents worth!
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Permalink Reply by Barb Kilzer on
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An ex-coworker, who is a licensed Esthetician, recently went to a dermatologist to have a spot frozen off her finger. The girl taking her info was also a licensed Esthetician, but she figured that was just a learning experience for her. However, when it came time for the procedure to be performed, the Dr. actually supervised the Esthetician while she performed the procedure. The ex-coworker experienced pain after leaving the office, and a couple of days later, it seemed to be infected. She went to a local Dr. who told her the procedure went to deep and down to the bone. I think this is a perfect example of why you need to go to school and learn in depth what procedures you are going to perform BEFORE they are cleared to work on any people!!
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Permalink Reply by Pam Ferriter-Aarli on
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One of my instructors told the class that because of this bill, untrained people could be drawing blood in the drs. offices. I find that extremely disturbing. Just thought I'd pass that on. Has any one contacted their representatives?
Barb Kilzer said:An ex-coworker, who is a licensed Esthetician, recently went to a dermatologist to have a spot frozen off her finger. The girl taking her info was also a licensed Esthetician, but she figured that was just a learning experience for her. However, when it came time for the procedure to be performed, the Dr. actually supervised the Esthetician while she performed the procedure. The ex-coworker experienced pain after leaving the office, and a couple of days later, it seemed to be infected. She went to a local Dr. who told her the procedure went to deep and down to the bone. I think this is a perfect example of why you need to go to school and learn in depth what procedures you are going to perform BEFORE they are cleared to work on any people!! -
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Pam- I would love to be able to contact our Il rep. However, I haven't the foggiest notion how! If anyone knows the correct channels to pursue, please let us know.
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You can go to www.elections.state.il.us and click on the zip code tab to search for your senator and representative by typing in your zip code. The best thing to do is mail or fax a letter stating your concerns and/or any personal experiences you have had that show why this is not a good idea. If any one is an ABMP member, they had a sample letter you could print and send.
Marissa Macias said:Pam- I would love to be able to contact our Il rep. However, I haven't the foggiest notion how! If anyone knows the correct channels to pursue, please let us know. -
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I don't know about the rest of Illinois, but in Chicago, I'm seeing a lot of cheap massages. 1 hr/ $49. When you're only making about 35% of that, I'm not seeing how we massage therapists can sustain our careers. Even day spas are doing this. For instance, the spa where I work part-time, 4 days a week offers buy one get one free discounts... I think it's pretty ridiculous because Chicago's one of the most expensive places to live, and our commission is so low, and there are only so many massages a person can do.
So... that's how massages are going in Gotham (wink) -
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Dude, it was passed- I want to say, back in March. I got a little e-mail from ABMP about it.
Marissa Macias said:Good old SB318! If that bill is passed it would be catastrophic! Pardon the drama. However, I do have it in the back of my mind that if a physician or chiropractor is worth their salt they would NEVER have an untrained/unlicensed employee do massage on their patients. To my way of thinking, it would show a serious lapse in judgement, character, and concern for patient wellfare to do so. Many massage therapists refer clients to physicians/chiros and those to implement this proposal would lose respect and referrals from those licensed therapists. It would be a viscious circle. A no-win situation that would not have the patient/client in the best care. That is the heart of what LMTs strive to achieve. Total client focus. What is best for the client. Will these "other" employees have the same regard? Will they take heart "DO NO HARM" !?!?!
Pat Ward said:What I have been seeing is the rise in popularity of the membership massage clinics such as Massage Envy, where a member pays a monthly membership fee and get massages at a reduced rate, Due to the economy, many people have not been able to get massages as much as usual. Many therapists I know have had to reduce their prices to get and keep clients coming back. People are going for the more no frills approach to massage, keeping the expensive day spas and salons only for a rare luxury like birthdays and weddings. In order to get and keep clients coming back, pricing is a major issue. Massage Envy seems to have cornered the market on inexpensive, fairly well done massages. The clinic are spouting up all over the state right now.
One trend I find disturbing is that now almost anyone can perform massage in a medical setting such as a doctor office and chiro offices provider they are supervised by a qualified medical professional. This not only takes jobs away from a licensed therapist but also can be potentially harmful to the patient if the person does not know what he or she is doing.I am hoping this does not become a trend in Illinois. -
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Yeah, it was made "official" on August 22nd, I believe. What does that say about our state Licensing? Why do we even have it if they aren't going to regulate it?!?!?!?
Carma Nibarger said:Dude, it was passed- I want to say, back in March. I got a little e-mail from ABMP about it.
Marissa Macias said:Good old SB318! If that bill is passed it would be catastrophic! Pardon the drama. However, I do have it in the back of my mind that if a physician or chiropractor is worth their salt they would NEVER have an untrained/unlicensed employee do massage on their patients. To my way of thinking, it would show a serious lapse in judgement, character, and concern for patient wellfare to do so. Many massage therapists refer clients to physicians/chiros and those to implement this proposal would lose respect and referrals from those licensed therapists. It would be a viscious circle. A no-win situation that would not have the patient/client in the best care. That is the heart of what LMTs strive to achieve. Total client focus. What is best for the client. Will these "other" employees have the same regard? Will they take heart "DO NO HARM" !?!?!
Pat Ward said:What I have been seeing is the rise in popularity of the membership massage clinics such as Massage Envy, where a member pays a monthly membership fee and get massages at a reduced rate, Due to the economy, many people have not been able to get massages as much as usual. Many therapists I know have had to reduce their prices to get and keep clients coming back. People are going for the more no frills approach to massage, keeping the expensive day spas and salons only for a rare luxury like birthdays and weddings. In order to get and keep clients coming back, pricing is a major issue. Massage Envy seems to have cornered the market on inexpensive, fairly well done massages. The clinic are spouting up all over the state right now.
One trend I find disturbing is that now almost anyone can perform massage in a medical setting such as a doctor office and chiro offices provider they are supervised by a qualified medical professional. This not only takes jobs away from a licensed therapist but also can be potentially harmful to the patient if the person does not know what he or she is doing.I am hoping this does not become a trend in Illinois. -
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