Lymphatic Drainage/Manual Lymph Drainage

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Comment by Edel Montalvo Caban on September 18, 2009 at 6:02pm

Hi, Im a CMT and recently took my CLT, with the Academy of Lymphatic Studies, and start working with the American Cancer Society at Puerto Rico. Is very challenging, trying to help people who really need. Blessings to all, from San Juan Puerto Rico. Sorry if is spell something wrong.LOL

Comment by Karen Small on September 8, 2009 at 9:04am

I've had LDT training through Upledger, the first two levels. I still haven't used LDT as much as I'd like to but am trying to incorporate it more into my work (primarily deep tissue/myofascial). I have used it mainly with "normal" people who presumably have healthy lymph systems. I have found them all to be somewhat congested and they all feel better after the work. In fact a couple of people think the work took them to the "next" level. They felt better physically than they had in a long time and I found their tissues to feel more open and pliable than they had been before the LDT session.

Comment by Carl W. Brown on September 7, 2009 at 5:02pm

Kelley, I imagine that most of us who have lymphatic problem and can work the area would work on ourselves. But it brings up a more interesting question. Who do we work on? I only work on people with lymphedema or need lymphatic drainage. I hear that some people incorporate it into their general work. My training suggested this approach but do clients actually feel better when you do drainage and the lymphatic system is healthy? I guess that I have a problem with this because I work not to provide an enjoyable session but to make the person feel better after the session. Either to achieve a higher state of wellness or correct some problem.

Comment by Kelly Grounds on September 3, 2009 at 10:19pm

Does anyone do MLD on themselves? I ask because i also have RA and I have found MLD to be great on my knees when they hurt. Unfortunately, I can't reach my own SI joint area.

Comment by David Henderson on August 31, 2009 at 1:29pm

It's nice to find a place to communicate with other lymphatic therapists. I recently recieved my CDT LLCC certification from Upledger Institute last May. Been learning and practicing lymph drainage since 1999. In my practice I use a variety of techniques so I often mix massage and lymph drainage. Usually use the heavier work first. I almost always use Craiosacral with MLD.

Comment by Anita Bakke on August 19, 2009 at 2:57pm

Hi, Just got my CLT from Klose Institute in June but have been doing oncology massage as a LMT for 5 years. I'm still new to this blog stuff so give me a little time to connect but thanks for offering this connection. :-)

Comment by Sarah Hungerink on August 14, 2009 at 2:05pm

Hello eveyone! I'm so glad that someone started this group, because this is where I do the most gratifying work. I have a client that I have worked on every week for the last 6 months. She has Lyme Disease and no doctors will help her in the state of Michigan because of the misconceptions of the disease. I perform a combination of therapeutic massage and manual lymph darinage for 90 minutes, with the overall goal being to help release the bacteria (spirochetes) that causes Lyme Disease from the muscles and flush them out into the lymph channels so that they will come out of their protective shape and revert back to the more vulnerable spiral shape. This has been a powerful therapy for her, and for the first time in 3 years she is showing great improvement. We plan to continue for as long as it takes.

Comment by Lisa Santoro on July 24, 2009 at 8:18pm

Welcome everyone who has joined the group recently. How do you incorporate LDT and/or MLD in your massage sessions? If you do a full lymphatic session, do you incorporate massage too? What are your thoughts on how lymph work could overload the body's systems?

Comment by Carl W. Brown on July 17, 2009 at 1:33pm

I think the lymphedema clients have individualized problems because the blockages are in different places. One has to find where the blockages are and where to bridge for where it is backed up to the easiest place past the blockages. I don’t know how that can be done without feeling where the lymph moves. Repeated treatment will hopefully create new paths. While they are never as good as the original system they do make it easier to do future drainages and increate the time between treatments.

Comment by Lisa Santoro on July 17, 2009 at 8:47am

Carl, what were some of the contraindications that were not well explained? I worked on someone yesterday who was from Europe. She has had 3 bouts of cancer and had double mastectomy, and lymphedema in one of her arms. She did not speak English very well, and I spoke her language marginally, so we mostly communicated by gesture. I asked where she drained well, and where the practitioners in her country focused their work. It seemed like her sessions were more "rote" and that a protocal was followed in every session. She seemed to do well by them, and had her own routine of exercise and compression that she followed daily. On palpation, I felt that she drained in some other areas that her European practitioners did not address, and we did drainage techniques according to that "feel" vs. the step by step. When I called this morning to check on her, her daughter said she had experienced a really great result, better than what she usually expects from her regular routines. So, not that this is "better" but I think a lot could be said for attuning to the person's individual presentation.

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