Massage And Breast Cancer and breast health issues

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Comment by lee kalpin on December 3, 2009 at 1:00pm

I am another MT who had breast cancer, in 2006. I had a lumpectomy and removal of one axillary lymph node. It did have some effect on my work as there was nerve damage from the lymph node surgery that caused pain and numbness down the arm. Symptoms gradually decreased but it took a couple of months. There was also damage to the serratus anterior muscle from the breast surgery. That still causes discomfort if I do a lot of strenuous massage.
I find that these are aspects of the treatment that we are not informed about. No doctor warned me of these possible after effects, but now when I complain about them doctors say "oh yes, that is typical after BC surgery.

Comment by Carol J McDaniel on November 24, 2009 at 6:08pm

Please post any and all research and papers. Here are two from Dr. Bruno Chikly (Lymph Drainage Therapy):LDT optimising the health of yor breast_Dr.BrunoCHikly.pdf
http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/207/Lym...

Comment by Nancy L. Ring on November 24, 2009 at 5:53pm

I found some on an old hard drive but not the one from England. I am not sure where I found these. I will post in discussion if there are no objections.

Comment by Nancy L. Ring on November 24, 2009 at 5:45pm

I hope I can still find it. I had it in a word program on my hard drive. I am still looking on several hard drives. I am still looking online as well. If I come across it again. You bet I will post the link & recopy it. Thanks for your information.

Comment by Bill Curry on November 24, 2009 at 5:39pm

Hi Nancy - I would like to know more about that study from England. There are several studies that have proven the benefits of massaging the breast, be it self or otherwise. Even the bra manufactures recommend doing self breast massage every time you take off your bra. I have a lot to say on that subject, but for another conversation. A client of mine that is the top nurse at the hospital she works at said to me, that when she was in nursing school back in 1980, they knew that wearing a bra caused the breast to become more acidic and toxic. They also knew that this condition could lead to breast cancer due to the basic anatomy. The fact is that the whole body (including organs) use lymph vessels to eliminate waste products from the body that would otherwise be taken away by the blood vessels. Ninety percent of plasma, that goes in to the interstitial tissue areas, goes back in to the blood stream, and gets taken away, filtered out by the kidneys and you then urinate it away. The breast are the only organs that function differently then the rest of the body. Every lymph vessel in the body has lymph vessels with could be called one way valves, keeping the lymph moving in one direction. Through autopsy's they have found that the breast tissue has between 8 to 15% vessels with these one way valves. It is theorized that body was built or evolved with the breast moving freely, and as a result they drain through movement. So massaging the breast actually facilitates this need for movement and detoxifies the breast, taking them from acidic to alkaline. Cancer thrives in an acidic internment, and slows down to between a crawl and a stop in an alkaline internment. So alkaline diets are used for cancer patients to keep it from getting any worse as well as to heal the patient. The same can be said for keeping the breast moving. Not wearing a bra is one of these areas that of concern. Having the right bra for the right purpose is the best way to go, and not wearing one when possible. So the study you speak of says a lot. In countries where bras are not worn, it is no surprise they have a very low incident of breast cancer. One study back in 1992 showed that in these countries, women had a 1 in a 152 chance of getting breast cancer. In countries where bras are worn the risk factor goes to 1 in 7. Diet plays a big roll, but proper drainage of the lymphatic system in the breast plays a big roll as well. OK, enough said for now. I have lectured on this subject and other related breast issue since 2000, and there is a lot that I could say, but this is not a lecture. Is is possible to post a link on this site for others to see this study or is it in writing somewhere?

Comment by Nancy L. Ring on November 24, 2009 at 11:50am

I remember a few years ago like 2006/07, I found a study from England that stated they did research on breast cancer & massage. As I recall the women who got monthly breast massage didn't get breast cancer. Does anyone remember this study? I am trying to refind it. I had it on an old hard drive & I seem to have lost it.

Comment by Eeris Kallil CMT on November 23, 2009 at 11:52pm

Hello there Carolyn, sorry it took me a while to reply.
I was diagnosed in 2000 and had a bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction, but no chemo or radiation. From the moment i was diagnosed all i wanted was to go back to work- as soon as possible. I wanted life to go back to the way it was before cancer. So needless to say there was some denial process going on... I waited the recommended 10 weeks after the surgery, and went back to work, of course i did it gradually. Since I was not doing chemo or radiation my recovery was fast and my body did not feel overly taxed. I felt strong emotionally because i knew that i made the right decision for me. I have a heavy family history and strange enough there was a sense of relief to finally deal with it and move on, even thought it was difficult to go through it.
I decided to focus my practice on helping woman with breast cancer, and teach others about massage and breast cancer.
Working with other women made a big impact on my emotional healing.
The truth is that i feel really lucky. If it cost me the price of my breasts to stay here and raise my children , I am willing to pay that price.
I am happy to talk more if you would like to. please contact me via a personal message.

Comment by Carolyn Adams on November 12, 2009 at 10:20am

Eeris, actually I was looking for MTs who had breast cancer. I see you are one and I will check out your website. I was diagnosed in June but just had surgery in October (wanted to get my daughter off to college first). I'm wondering how "bc" affected your work as an MT, both from a practical standpoint (energy level, etc) and an emotional level.

Comment by Eeris Kallil CMT on November 11, 2009 at 10:57pm

Carolyn, Glad you joined. I learned so much since I joined this site!
Did you mean Massage Therapists who had breast cancer? I had breast cancer 9 years ago and willing to talk and share with anyone. Let me know how I can help!

Comment by Carolyn Adams on November 11, 2009 at 11:27am

Great site with excellent information. It will take time to read and absorb everything. One question -- a quick review of the topics address massage for clients with breast cancer. What about MT's with breast cancer? Is there anyone there who would be willing to share their experience about this?

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