Wholistic Health in Hospitals and Hospice

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Comment by Maria Troia on October 4, 2009 at 1:07pm

Lindsey,

You might want to look at my website to get some ideas of what is out there for you: www.KIRAHolistic.com. Go to the Student Seminars and then the AMMA Therapy Instruction tab. AMMA Therapy is an eastern system of healing (5 element bodywork, diet, Chinese exercise, TCM assessment tools) which was successfully integrated into Belvue Hospital and other hospitals in NY through the Wholistic Nursing Program.

I am currently providing CEUs to LMTs in AMMA Therapy and working on getting CEUs for nurses in 2010. The nursing program is going to be the next big shift in AMMA Therapy education and it was always said that the nurses were the ones who "kept AMMA Therapy pure."

Classes are based in Arizona right now, but will eventually be traveling.

You can always contact me privately with any questions.

As far as merging the two fields while you're in school, that might be tough depending on the pulse of the administration you have and might take some discerning. Try to network within your program and within the hospitals and see who is open to complimentary medicine. Also, have you contacted the Holistic Nursing Association in Flagstaff, AZ? They might have some good suggestions for you.

Best of luck with your program. You are wise to know that the current state of care is calling for something more. We are all pioneers at the edge of profound change.

Maria Troia, MSEd, LMT, NCTMB, CH

Comment by Lindsey Ardoin Kuntz on October 4, 2009 at 12:50pm

I have been a massage therapist for 6 years and I am back in school to become a nurse (graduate next Dec). I plan to practice nursing for a few years then go back for TCM or Oriental Medicine, which will depend on where we move. I believe that both western and eastern healing can work wonders together.
Does anyone have any thoughts or helpful advice on how to merge the two while I am nursing school. I get so frustrated at times because where I live there is almost no alternative health clinics, except for the one I work at. When I am a RN I plan to work in a hospital that integrates both western and eastern practices. However for now I am just trying to learn the basics of eastern healing so I will have some useful information when I begin that training, plus it just makes so much sense.

Comment by Maria Troia on October 1, 2009 at 4:31pm

Sandra,

Glad to help. I teach TCM/5 element bodywork, so if you have any questions, you may contact me directly as well. Ten minutes per session is a challenge, but you do what you can, pull one thread at a time and really focus and set your intention. You should always look at pulse and tongue, even with time limits. It gives you invaluable information about the energy body, the emotions, and how to find the root, as well as how to evaluate your progress. I tell my students "tongues don't lie, even though patients/clients might." Plus, I firmly believe "if you don't use it, you lose it." I see it happen all the time with therapists who get away from traditional assessment and then try to go back to it and find they aren't as adept as before. It's really important to keep such subtle skills active. The other advantage is the more you use them, the more acute your assessment/sensitivity skills become. So, while charting this information in your notes is always best, form or no form, do pulse and tongue anyway.

Glad to hear they are letting you do some longer sessions! Sounds like things are coming along there for you!

Best of luck,
Maria Troia, MSEd, LMT, NCTMB, CH
www.KIRAHolistic.com

Comment by Sandra Kay Farnham on October 1, 2009 at 8:06am

Thanks Maria,

I have been used to seeing patients for 10 minutes. That is only enough time to work on small problems. The hospital is now letting me see patients as real clients for hour sessions. I have gotten out of the habbit of using tongue and pulses to help. I have had extra training in both. I am going to change my intake form back to having this information in my form. I will let you know how next week goes.
Thanks again for the reminders. It is a big help to have someone to talk to that knows TCM.

Comment by Maria Troia on September 30, 2009 at 11:40pm

Hi Sandra,

Keep doing what you're doing with the Kidney and the Liver. You're on the right track. But try to keep searching for causative factor under both too.... think 5 element. Look at the control and creation cycles. Is a Spleen deficiency creating a weak Kidney? Or is it Lung/Kidney and the Lung not nourishing the Kidney? With the Liver, is it a weak Kidney not nourishing the Liver? Or is the Lung not acting as the lid on the Liver? Keep pulling the threads to find the true root. I'm assuming if you are using TCM bodywork that you also do pulse and tongue assessment. What do those things indicate?

Yes, I've worked with tinnitis, both low and high pitch. I use both AMMA Therapy and CST with great results.

If you have a colleague nearby who can show you some basics of CST, particularly ear pulls, try to integrate that. And remember, the ear is the sense organ of the Kidney... so, there is often overlap. East and West can't really be separated.

Maria Troia, MSEd, LMT, NCTMB, CH
www.KIRAHolistic.com

Comment by Sandra Kay Farnham on September 30, 2009 at 4:56pm

Maria,
Someone that speaks my language! One is high and one is low pitch. I have used Kidney tonification and Liver sedation points. I am not YET trained in CST but I have done one session on someone is school. Have you had any success for tinnitis? I have done two sessions on each and will be seeing both next week again.

Comment by Maria Troia on September 30, 2009 at 9:48am

Sandra,
is it low or high pitch tinnitis? Low is Kidney deficiency. High is Liver excess. Let's start there. Also, are you trained in CST?

Comment by Sandra Kay Farnham on September 30, 2009 at 7:24am

THANK YOU! It is good to know what is available to attend but I did start this to talk about care of patients. I am presently giving Jin Shin Do(R) Acupressure sessions to two different people for tennitis. I have been working by the books with a little success. I am relaxing the head, face, and neck area. Focusing also on K, LV, and GB meridians. Have any of you had any sucess with tinnitis?

Comment by Carl W. Brown on September 29, 2009 at 7:29pm

Is it me, or has this group changes to just announcements of classes? I joined thinking that it would be to discuss issues involving introducing Wholistic concepts to traditional medicine and palliative care.
I think the hospice is s great place to start because the egos of being right tend to disappear and to focus s**** to the patient. As to moving into hospitals I think we need to work on integrating evidence-based practice and Wholistic approaches. Unfortunately people including many MTs equate EBP and medical massage. We need to learn and teach others that while science tends to be objective and rational, if we limit ourselves to just what fits into a scientific model we are not doing the best for our patients when we looks at the results of our treatment objectively.
W can use observations that we cannot quantify and tools and techniques that defy rational explanation and still achieve measurably better results.

Comment by Katharine Koeppen on September 28, 2009 at 11:10pm

Upcoming October aromatherapy classes in Dallas, TX, taught by registered clinical aromatherapist Katharine Koeppen. The Mind & Spirit course is especially valuable for hospice workers.

INTRO TO AROMATICS
Sunday, October 4
9:30am – 4:30pm
Location: Ke Kino Institute of Healing, Plano, TX 75075
Visit www.aromaceuticals.com for course description. 6 CEU’s available for LMT.
Fee: $125. Call 972-509-5588 to register, and mention Aromaceuticals.

AROMATHERAPY FOR THE MIND AND SPIRIT
Saturday and Sunday, October 24 - 25
9:30am – 4:30pm
Location: Ke Kino Institute of Healing, Plano, TX 75075
Visit www.aromaceuticals.com for course description. 12 CEU’s available for LMT.
Fee: $250. Call 972-509-5588 to register, and mention Aromaceuticals.

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