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I had a new client the other day for an 80 minute massage. I asked him if there is anything that he wanted me to know. He told me that he suffers from a herniated disc that he has had for a few years. He has constant low back and right hip pain that at times radiates down the back of his leg to his knee. He told me that he has had two injections in his low back and has to stay on anit- inflamtory medication. Anything to avoid surgery. The pain is always there. I asked him if he ever saw a chiropractor for his pain. He said yes. But the adjustments hurt his hip so bad that he could not continiue. So here is a guy that thinks he is on the verge of surgery. I knew that there was a very strong probubllity that was not the case. The vast majority of pain people experience is nocioceptive pain( soft tissue- muscle, tendon, ligament, facia). MDs and Chiropractors see pain as neuropathic pain( nerve pain). With that asumption they give the wrong treatments and therapies. Now there is no denying that at times injections and surgery is needed. Not denying that. But most of the time - NOT. 70% to 85% of all pain comes directly from trigger points. Anyway I showed my client a testimonial from a client that I was able to help out of a very painful condition that she had delt with for a couple of years. I showed him that testimonial because all pain has a psychological eliment too it. I wanted him to start thinking maybe he is not on the edge of surgery. I palpated his entire back upper torso, both hips, and right leg. I found a very painful spot on his right L5 erectors. Another very painful spot on his right greater trochantor. A painful spot in the middle part of his lower right hamstrings. And also a tender spot on the right spinous of L3. I knew that if Iwas able to eliminate all those painful palaptory spots that I would most likely eliminate his pain problem. Because a healthy body had no painful spots even with deep massage. Ive been hunting and eliminateing trigger points for thirty years now. He walked out of the massage room pain free. He was pain free for the first time in years. All those other professional people misdiagnosed him because they assume neuropathic pain over nocioceptive pain. I assume the other way around. I'm a Massage Therapist.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon J. Wallis on
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Yea I wish I could help you Gary. Is it a new thing, or have you been dealing with it for a long time? Or does it come and go depending? Just today I met a new client that quit going to physical therapy for her shoulder and neck. . She went for several weeks with no improvement. They wanted her to keep going for another thousand dollars worth of therapy. She just quit. She could tell what they were doing was not working. Anyway, she had trigger points in her sternum on the affected side, along with very noticible tender points in her Pectoralis Major and SCM on the effected side. She also had tender points on the back of her neck, both sides, at the C3 level.. Also a very tender lateral spinous at about the T9 or 10 lever on the effected side. After the session she could move her arm with no pain. She rescheduled for another follow up session. There was a deffinat noticible improvement in her condition that made her want to come back for follow ups. If I get those trigger points to stay way. She will be fine.. Because that is the problem. Oh, and as a side note. Got another sciatic client. All trigger points.. None of the people she has ever gone to for her sciatica mentioned the word trigger points. Of course not. It's a very secret deal.
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Permalink Reply by Gary W Addis, LMT on
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I injured it about 2012, in the gym...not warmed up enough before I went heavy benching. A buddy took out about 15 tps the old way, in about a 2.5 hour session. It got better, but acts up sometimes for weeks. Partly it's osteoarthritis now; in the hands, one knee and the opposite the bad shoulder. I competed in bodybuilding and powerlifting for the entire decade of the 80s, did a lot of damage to my joints. But, man, I surely did look good back then-- I won Mr Georgia, Southeastern Mr America and finished up the next year by winning the over 40 South American championship. It's come and gone several times, but this time it may not ever go away again. Hurts just hanging on my body, you know?
Gordon J. Wallis said:Yea I wish I could help you Gary. Is it a new thing, or have you been dealing with it for a long time? Or does it come and go depending? Just today I met a new client that quit going to physical therapy for her shoulder and neck. . She went for several weeks with no improvement. They wanted her to keep going for another thousand dollars worth of therapy. She just quit. She could tell what they were doing was not working. Anyway, she had trigger points in her sternum on the affected side, along with very noticible tender points in her Pectoralis Major and SCM on the effected side. She also had tender points on the back of her neck, both sides, at the C3 level.. Also a very tender lateral spinous at about the T9 or 10 lever on the effected side. After the session she could move her arm with no pain. She rescheduled for another follow up session. There was a deffinat noticible improvement in her condition that made her want to come back for follow ups. If I get those trigger points to stay way. She will be fine.. Because that is the problem. Oh, and as a side note. Got another sciatic client. All trigger points.. None of the people she has ever gone to for her sciatica mentioned the word trigger points. Of course not. It's a very secret deal.
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http://www.webmd.com/back-pain/tc/sciatica-topic-overview
This is what the medical docs say, and everybody else for that matter, about the causes of sciatica. Not one freakin mention of trigger points. Not one???? Lol.. Good Grief. Unbelievable. Just read it. You can see the arthritis, compressed spine all the stuff I hear over and over and over again. I mean they may have those pathologies. But that's not what's causing their pain. I have a compressed lower back right now, as a result of the herniated disc.. And I have zero pain in my low back. But if I went to a doctor with low back pain, and they saw my X-ray. They would say.. Ahh, that's the reason. They would never even touch my back. They wouldn't need too. Cause it's right there on the X-ray. Now no doubt some people really do have sciatica. No denying that. But a high percentage of those diagnosed, don't. - Attachments:
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You guys, I'm trying to set up my video clips on YouTube. Something is not right? I will continiue to work on it. Until then, later.
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Dr. Leon Chaitow is thought of by many to be a worlds leading expert when it comes to finding and eliminating myofascial trigger points. He has many videos on YouTube. Here is one where he works on releasing an upper Trap trigger point.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ay9Di10kg
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Here is another video of Dr. Chaitows approach to finding and eliminating abdominal trigger points.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLzEc6OvKGFVhXxIJzXlyyFivLslFrsr9D...
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I've tried to make contact with Dr. Chaitow thinking he would be excited about the trigger point work that I do sense he is doing what I did twenty years ago. But he sluffed me off and told me not to email him anymore. Maybe because he is an expert and im not, and still learning? In the next two video clips you will see me eliminate some abdominal trigger points and upper trap trigger points along with a plethora of other trigger points within a 15 minute session.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9j3O69Dy5A
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Here is the last 30 seconds of her 15 minute session.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kpk4QfwbE
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Here is the young ladies testimonial after her session.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jscqmQemQT0
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In 12 minutes, Dr. Chaitow didn't quite release two trigger points. One upper trap. , and one abdominal trigger point. In that same amount of time, I found and totally released 25 trigger points including two upper trap, and several abdominal ones. In less then 15 minutes I found and totally released 30 trigger points. Her pain was completely eliminated without a lot of hassle and unnecessary stuff. TRUE REFINEMENT SEEKS SIMPLICITY.- "The height of cultivation runs to simplicity. Halfway cultivation runs to ornamentation."--- Bruce Lee. I'm so glad that I have never gotten to the point where I knew it all, and stopped learning. Otherwise I'd be an expert.
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I love quotations. Here is a good one that kinda fits into this thread.
EVERYONE TAKES THE LIMITS OF HIS OWN VISION
FOR THE LIMITS OF THE WORLD.
Arthur Schopenhauer
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I was hanging out at the front desk talking to the customer service ladies when my next client walked in the spa. I noticed that she was walking with a distinct limp. When I got her into the room she told me that she has sciatica do to a herniated disc of 11 years ago. She has been getting monthly injections or something like that for the radiating nerve pain that runs down her leg( it's obviously not working). And of course I doubted that it was nerve pain from the very beginning. And I told her that. But she assured me that it was nerve pain because she has been diagnosed by medical doctors, and sees them regularly. So I let her watch one of my short video clips of me taking out a trigger point. As she watched it, her eyes got real big. And she gave me permission to work on her sciatic pain instead of the relaxation massage she came in for. Long story short, she had trigger points in her left L5 paraspinals, glute med., Piriformis near the trochanter, as well as really painful ones in her tensor fascinate latae, and Vastus lateralis in two places. She was very surprised to feel no nerve pain in her hip and leg after the session. When she left the spa, she walked without a limp. I just emailed her information on trigger points. She is going to reschedule. She will need a few follow ups. But that's a simple one. She also mentioned to me that her husband has nerve pain. Hmm? I guess that's remotely possible.
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