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Massage Should Not Be Licensed!
How does this subject make you feel?
Your schooling, training and everything is for not. That's what some on this site are touting as a reason to stop the professions progress thus far with the BOK. They continue to try and tie prostitution and massage together as the reason for licensing. It is not because we wish to enter the healthfield.
Read for yourself at http://www.massageprofessionals.com/group/bodyofknowledge/forum/top...
Instead of working with the leaders of this profession they want to create an entire new bureaucracy . It's your profession. How do you feel?
The following stories should give you a clearer picture of our massage landscape and how those resisting licensure are hurting the profession.
Your schooling, training and everything is for not. That's what some on this site are touting as a reason to stop the professions progress thus far with the BOK. They continue to try and tie prostitution and massage together as the reason for licensing. It is not because we wish to enter the healthfield.
Read for yourself at http://www.massageprofessionals.com/group/bodyofknowledge/forum/top...
Instead of working with the leaders of this profession they want to create an entire new bureaucracy . It's your profession. How do you feel?
The following stories should give you a clearer picture of our massage landscape and how those resisting licensure are hurting the profession.
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Permalink Reply by Darcy Neibaur on
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I would like to know how many pass certification and get their license paid for.
Mike Hinkle said:Yeah, if I doubled the price, I would pay a couple hundred for their license too.
Lisa said:Darcy...that's a great idea. that way when you're done with school you are truly ready and able to start your career!!!
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Permalink Reply by Mike Hinkle on
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For my class: Only 5 of the original 19 even tried. I know four passed and only 2 are still in the industry.
Darcy Neibaur BS LMT NCTMB said:I would like to know how many pass certification and get their license paid for.
Mike Hinkle said:Yeah, if I doubled the price, I would pay a couple hundred for their license too.
Lisa said:Darcy...that's a great idea. that way when you're done with school you are truly ready and able to start your career!!!
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Permalink Reply by Keith Eric Grant on
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Lisa said:thanks for clearing that up for me Mike. I didn't realize the MBLEx test was part of the new FSMTB. just how long has the FSMTB been in existance? and do they have a website one can check out to see what they are up to?
FSMTB is a federation of the various state boards. The members of FSMTB are the boards and regulatory agencies of the various states. The Board of Directors of FSMTB are elected from and by the representatives sent by the various states. Thus FSMTB is accountable to the states and run by those who understand the role of regulation (states generally require training for board members pertaining to regulating for the public benefit and open meeting laws). The FSMTB website is http://www.fsmtb.org/
The first organizational meeting of FSMTB was in May 2005. Although ABMP paid for the meeting room and startup costs (partly via loans), the meeting was quickly turned over to the states present to elect an interim board. That board contacted a number of similar associations of boards and also attended the annual meeting of CLEAR (Council on Licensure, Enforcement, and Regulation) before the next meeting. They also contacted FARB, which is federation of associations of state boards. In other words, they learned as much as they could about running such a federation. A model similar to the National Council of Nursing Boards was selected, including provision of a licensing exam. There was a second, larger organizational meeting in September, attended by more states, at which the first working BOD was selected and by-laws were created. The MBLEx, was floated by the FSMTB in fall 2007, with the assistance of the testing company Pearson-Vue.
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Actually FARB is the Federation of Associations of Regulatory Boards and their website is at http://www.farb.org/
Keith Eric Grant said:Lisa said:thanks for clearing that up for me Mike. I didn't realize the MBLEx test was part of the new FSMTB. just how long has the FSMTB been in existance? and do they have a website one can check out to see what they are up to?
FSMTB is a federation of the various state boards. The members of FSMTB are the boards and regulatory agencies of the various states. The Board of Directors of FSMTB are elected from and by the representatives sent by the various states. Thus FSMTB is accountable to the states and run by those who understand the role of regulation (states generally require training for board members pertaining to regulating for the public benefit and open meeting laws). The FSMTB website is http://www.fsmtb.org/
The first organizational meeting of FSMTB was in May 2005. Although ABMP paid for the meeting room and startup costs (partly via loans), the meeting was quickly turned over to the states present to elect an interim board. That board contacted a number of similar associations of boards and also attended the annual meeting of CLEAR (Council on Licensure, Enforcement, and Regulation) before the next meeting. They also contacted FARB, which is federation of associations of state boards. In other words, they learned as much as they could about running such a federation. A model similar to the National Council of Nursing Boards was selected, including provision of a licensing exam. There was a second, larger organizational meeting in September, attended by more states, at which the first working BOD was selected and by-laws were created. The MBLEx, was floated by the FSMTB in fall 2007, with the assistance of the testing company Pearson-Vue.
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Mike Hinkle said:Actually FARB is the Federation of Associations of Regulatory Boards and their website is at http://www.farb.org/
Thanks for catching that Mike. :)
And CLEAR is at http://www.clearhq.org/
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There ya go!
Keith Eric Grant said:Mike Hinkle said:Actually FARB is the Federation of Associations of Regulatory Boards and their website is at http://www.farb.org/
Thanks for catching that Mike. :)
And CLEAR is at http://www.clearhq.org/
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Permalink Reply by Laura Allen on
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Some of the schools in NC include license fees in their package, but that doesn't get the license there any faster. They still have to wait as long as anyone else. Thankfully, here that usually means 2-4 weeks if everything is on order.
Lisa said:Darcy...that's a great idea. that way when you're done with school you are truly ready and able to start your career!!!
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Here in Florida one has to pass the NCB first and then apply for State License. My whole process took about 7 weeks.
Laura Allen said:Some of the schools in NC include license fees in their package, but that doesn't get the license there any faster. They still have to wait as long as anyone else. Thankfully, here that usually means 2-4 weeks if everything is on order.
Lisa said:Darcy...that's a great idea. that way when you're done with school you are truly ready and able to start your career!!!
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Those that are licensed understand, "it isn't the government, big brother or the state taking over." It is a profession organizing. That scares some folks. Change is hard. Change is constant. Having no regulations leads to loss of practice, it is inevitable a common minded affiliation will claim common ground if you don't. Unfortuanately, it is what happens.
Candace Ellis BA, LMT said:I want our profession licensed. I went to school and practiced in New York, a licensing state, for quite a while. Since, I have moved to Vermont which has no regulation as in regard to whom may practice massage. I often feel that my qualifications are far superior due to the necessity of my over 1000 hour program. I maintain my NY license and mention my qualification to clients. "Massage Therapists" are often paid much less here in spas and such because they do not need to meet any minimum standard.
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Permalink Reply by Lisa on
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Mike i don't understand what you're saying here. can you dumb it down for me?
in defense i don't think disliking the state or government or big brother being involved is being scared of change. i LOVE change personally. that's why i moved cross country. :)
i AM curious though...i've read here and there complaints that the NCBTMB didn't really step up in organizing this field. if they had...and had been able to get state recognizion as a quality certification in which the states then didn't feel the need to regulate...would we be having this new organization of state boards? i guess i'm just too new in this field to really grasp the politics of the massage world. i don't understand why the effort isn't into getting the NCBTMB certification to be what regulated everyone in our field versus starting another board...this one state driven.
Mike Hinkle said:it is inevitable a common minded affiliation will claim common ground if you don't. Unfortuanately, it is what happens.
Candace Ellis BA, LMT said:I want our profession licensed. I went to school and practiced in New York, a licensing state, for quite a while. Since, I have moved to Vermont which has no regulation as in regard to whom may practice massage. I often feel that my qualifications are far superior due to the necessity of my over 1000 hour program. I maintain my NY license and mention my qualification to clients. "Massage Therapists" are often paid much less here in spas and such because they do not need to meet any minimum standard.
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Lisa, the power to do this lies only with the states. No one else can do this. Keith sent you the law on this. NCBTMB has no power to do this. The states have come together and formed the FSMTB. They are the ones leading the way.
Lisa said:Mike i don't understand what you're saying here. can you dumb it down for me?
in defense i don't think disliking the state or government or big brother being involved is being scared of change. i LOVE change personally. that's why i moved cross country. :)
i AM curious though...i've read here and there complaints that the NCBTMB didn't really step up in organizing this field. if they had...and had been able to get state recognizion as a quality certification in which the states then didn't feel the need to regulate...would we be having this new organization of state boards? i guess i'm just too new in this field to really grasp the politics of the massage world. i don't understand why the effort isn't into getting the NCBTMB certification to be what regulated everyone in our field versus starting another board...this one state driven.
Mike Hinkle said:it is inevitable a common minded affiliation will claim common ground if you don't. Unfortuanately, it is what happens.
Candace Ellis BA, LMT said:I want our profession licensed. I went to school and practiced in New York, a licensing state, for quite a while. Since, I have moved to Vermont which has no regulation as in regard to whom may practice massage. I often feel that my qualifications are far superior due to the necessity of my over 1000 hour program. I maintain my NY license and mention my qualification to clients. "Massage Therapists" are often paid much less here in spas and such because they do not need to meet any minimum standard.
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