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People always ask me why I don't have my own place? I tell them I do.. I love working in the spa.. Being an employee. Sure I could make potentially more money in my one practice.. but Im lazy and could never duplicate the beautiful facility and wonderful staff I work with. Massage therapists, Estheticians, Hair Stylists, front desk staff and a bunch of other people that keep things going. Awesome great people to work with every day... And another reason is the two $40,000.00 Vichy Massage rooms... I can give an awesome massage in those rooms.. Its a fifty five minute hands on massage followed by twenty minutes of water massage.. I'm able to do whatever kind of soft tissue work the client wants or needs...plenty of time... fifty five minutes. After that I use this big hose, they call it a Scots hose for some reason...I guess it sounds better then a fire hose. But I use that like a portable Jacuzzi jet over the entire back of their bodies...Temperature and pressure is adjusted to the clients liking. Perfect. Usually about 104 degrees...It feels awesome after a good massage.. You know how good a hot shower or bath feels.. And you of course know how good a massage feels.. They both give a very relaxing feeling to the body/mind... However they are both different....Well you get both of those feelings together with this service.. Its like 1+1 = 3.... A synergistic effect. Its a mind blowing experience... People are Zoned afterwards. Like I said, after the hands on massage I use the hose like a portable Jacuzzi jet over the entire back side of the body.. Then after that, there are seven overhead showers that come into play... They make a waterfall down the clients back for five minutes or so... and while the client is under the waterfall, I'm sprinkling cool water and essential oils around their body. The client is under a towel that is manipulated around during the service to give maximum skin exposure to the wonderful 104 degree water... I'm wearing swimming trunks and a T-shirt... The tile floor is heated...When I get a Vichy massage... I always feel like I'm floating down the Amazon river during a rain storm with some kind of safe life jacket on or something like that... lol Its a very experiential experience and a zone out for everyone. I will attach pictures of the Vichy rooms. I think I have two of those scheduled in a row tomorrow..Fun fun.. They always generate big tips too. And I can do medical type work in those rooms too if necessary, and finish off with the water... Its awesome. I am definitely able to enhance my massage work in those rooms.
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Permalink Reply by Therese Schwartz on
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"Information is power and currency in the virtual world we inhabit." Billy Idol, Cyberpunk, 1993. Crazy, but visionary!
Willows, I'm sorry you are disappointed in Gordon's information, but I totally get what he's saying. He has paid tens of thousands of dollars for the information he's learned (I'm still just in the thousands of dollars category, but it's adding up). It's not about an attitude problem, it's about the investment. I'd happily fly to Anchorage and spend $500 to learn from Gordon, if/when he starts teaching.
BTW, I've found some techniques that are superior to deep compression for releasing issues deep in the muscles. I am happy to share one that was in M&BW magazine. I've tried searching for the article in M&BW magazine but I can't find it. It was published earlier this year; it's only a couple of pages long. Basically, you grasp (as gently as possible) the entire muscle or muscle group (I use this the most on quads), move it across the grain so to speak, and feel which way is most restricted. All you do is move the entire muscle group in the direction of most restriction, hold and wait. Feel for releases in the tissue - they may be difficult to detect until you have some practice. It's way less painful than deep compression for you and the client. It takes time, but the results are longer lasting as well. It's more about solving the deep issue rather than mashing the muscle into some sort of compliance.
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Permalink Reply by willows_of_saturn on
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"First off, lots of people in here are selling continiuing education programs and simnars for money. .. The implications of the correct answer to that question I asked you are profound and not taught in any school or text book. It took me twenty years to figure it out. Lots of massages and hard work.. I hesitate to just pay for eveyones continiuing education.. But I am willing to help people learn.. And the information within that question has enhanced my abilities to help people that are in pain profoundly. And you have pain in the front of your neck right? When I start teaching. It will cost you $500 for me to ask that same question..
I have absolutely no qualms with continuing education programs or paying for people who have mastered a particular technique to teach me how to execute that technique. If you intend to offer your knowledge to others at a price, I think it's an excellent idea, and if you refrain from offering information about a particular matter in the midst of a discussion on a forum because you have this intention, that's also perfectly understandable. I think such an approach to imparting accumulated skills or knowledge is perfectly reasonable and I personally look forward to the day that I will instruct others in the ways of massage, most certainly at a price.
I didn't perceive any problem with this aspect of what you stated, nor did I ever feel entitled to a response from you. The attitude with which you conducted yourself however is certainly something that I found unappealing. Dismissing me as simply having memorized something without engaging in "real" learning because I answered incorrectly and stating that if you had told me, it'd just be another fact in my head, suggesting that I'd be incapable of actually using that answer, certainly aren't the same things as simply preferring to impart knowledge or skill through a different medium.
"This thread is over for me."
Why's that? This isn't my thread, it's yours. I simply popped in, asked a question, got sent packing, and away I go. You don't need to take your ball home."Willows, I'm sorry you are disappointed in Gordon's information, but I totally get what he's saying. He has paid tens of thousands of dollars for the information he's learned (I'm still just in the thousands of dollars category, but it's adding up). It's not about an attitude problem, it's about the investment. I'd happily fly to Anchorage and spend $500 to learn from Gordon, if/when he starts teaching."
Nah, it doesn't bother me that he didn't feel like saying anything more because the idea of cultivating a personal understanding of a particular subject and divulging it to others on one's own terms and for something in exchange is one that resonates well with me. I just didn't like the way he formed certain presumptions about my approach to learning based on the answer I gave him to his question. When I said that I was disappointed that he was not open to me, I didn't mean that he wasn't open to telling me things, but rather that he wasn't open to me as a person - meaning that he formed judgements regarding myself that weren't evidenced in the exchange that we had without actually seeking to know if it was the truth. Not that I have that expectation but I do find it disappointing when it happens. ;)
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BTW thanks for pointing me in the direction of that article Therese; I'll definitely start digging through those issues to find it. I think I saved already a link to the archive of all the issues. I really enjoy researching into all kinds of theoretical understanding, but I only use it to assist in creating an intuition about what I'm directly perceiving as I'm doing massage.
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