Cupping

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Comment by Michael Krizek 6304 on September 1, 2010 at 11:11am

The cups from Slip Stream and Baguanfa are very stiff and hard to use. Check out ww.massagecupping.com Here you can use a machine that you can dial in specfic suction levels. Ace, Massage Cupping (tm) was the origin for Massage Cupping training. Massage Cupping is not asian cupping at all. Often prospective students think it is Asian, far from it. Check out the before an after pictures of what this method of cupping can do for your practice. Classes for Massage Cupping (tm) level 1 level 2 are all over the USA and Europe . I hope this helps.

Comment by Gloria Coppola on August 31, 2010 at 9:31pm

I Love The cupping class I took with Anita Shannon. Actually I just finished doing some Lymph drainage on myself and a mini face lift! :)

Comment by Maria Fiorino on August 9, 2010 at 9:33am

2 friends just took the Contemporary Cupping Method workshop in Boston from one of the International Cupping Therapy Associates and were both over the top about the training, so I've signed up to take it in Manhattan at the end of August. They use several types of cups including rubber ones called Baguanfa Rubber Cups - these look to be the same type of cups used on the Slip Stream method. I bought the Slip Stream cups and the training DVD sometime back, but I didn't feel comfortable using them on my clients.

Here is their website - cuppingtherapy.org which is were I found the Baguanfa rubber cups. I also got some of the ones from the cuppingtherapy.org (actually 2 sets because they were so much less expensive) and I actually like them alot better that the set I bought from Slip Stream - the lip is much smoother and they don't smell like the Slip Stream Cups do - very strong chemical odor.

Comment by Barbara Burgess on July 21, 2010 at 8:18am

Is there anyone out there that uses the Slip Stream method of cupping? I am really enjoying using them and my clients love them, but I would like to speak with someone who does this method so I can learn more about them. I can not seem to find any information on the internet. Please let me know if you use them and what you do? Thanks

Comment by Barbara Burgess on July 15, 2010 at 9:51pm

I have just started cupping a few days ago. I am using the Slip Stream, plastic cups. I have found it to be extremely beneficial to my clients as well as myself. I am able to release facia and get into the skin at a deeper level and the client doesn't feel any pain. (Neither do I for that matter, LOL) It really does help save the hands. I generally keep the cups moving in an up and down motion along the back or wherever I am working. Sometimes, I will leave a cup in a certain area of pain such as the piriformis or the levator scapula. Sometimes I pull up on the skin to release the facia. I have gotten some great feedback from my clients and I look forward to many years of working with the cups. I wish I had bought 2 sets instead of one!

Comment by William F. Burton, Jr. on March 1, 2010 at 12:40am

Well said Kevin. Excellent explanation.

Comment by Kevin Green on February 28, 2010 at 12:31pm

I have found cupping a valued method of treating myofacial restriction and less painful for many clients than skin rolling. I also use it with deep tissue at key areas. A point of understanding how cups work is important. when the air is removed from the cup the surrounding air pressure attempts to rush in. With the skin and deeper tissue restricting the surrounding air from entering the cup the tissue under the cup is pushed into the cup. This means that the lift is really a push from deep down. That makes the cup great for deep tissue work in that the air pressure is pushing up from deep layers that I could not easily reach with my hands. The cup kiss as many call it is often a side effect with deep tissue application but the pain is less than most manual deep tissue and results are faster in my experience. TCM does refer the cup kiss as evidence of stagnation Limited or restricted movement is or becomes stagnation. Bringing the blood to the surface draws fresh fluid in to replace it.
This is done with the stationary cups and I use the plastic cups with a hand pump. I like using the glass fire cups with moving cup treatments but the insurance issues of fire cups discourages me.

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on January 29, 2010 at 7:49am

Hi William thanks for the answeres, I have had the "popping" over the spine done to me and it did seam to offer a theraputic affect to the tension in my lower back.
I was thinking the longer the cups are left on the more likely the marks, discolouration and eventual blood loss, but I suppose its to do with the strength of vacume as well?
There seam to be forms of cupping where the sole aim of the session is to "remove bad blood" ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCCCq1jJY-w

Thanks again.

Comment by William F. Burton, Jr. on January 29, 2010 at 4:21am

Hi Steve. If I may, I can address a couple of your questions. With negative pressure created by the suction of the cups you are lifting the skin and soft tissue(s) so going over the spine is fine. There's actually a technique used with the vacuum cups called "Popping" which is actually done on the spine. This technique, which is taught by the cupping educators, addresses the deeper layers of the back muscles: Rotatores, Multifidi etc.Again, with this technique, you are lift and not compressing, pushing, palpating etc on the spine.

As far as the marks; We like to call them "cup kisses" or "cup doo-hickies". These marks are areas where there is stagnation. solid lymph that has not been processed by the lymphatic system. In reference to chinese medicine, these marks are called "Sha" It is never the intention of the massagecupping practitioner to create these marks but if they do appear it is used to our advantage to identify the stagnation, and/or dysfunction. The darker the color of the marks the more stagnation/dysfunction there is.
Hope this helps a bit.
William
CMT, CMCE

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on January 25, 2010 at 4:12pm

Hi Micheal thanks for the heads up on the french classes, I just might get over there for that.
I find myself looking at cupping because I've recently introduced skin rolling into my sessions with some very good feedback, re enhancing the triggerpoint work that I do (more effective and lasts longer ).
The active cup appeals to me because sureley you have more controll = less unsightly marks and you are covering a wider area of the body ? shari says the marks aren't bruises so what is the discoloration ?
What are the rules re crossing the spine (why does it hurt so much to lift the skin here?)

My main focus is on chronic back pain, I have only recently learned of the fascia's ability to lay down more and more pain receptors in the lumber area.
Can cupping prevent or even reverse this ? can anyone direct me to cupping and back pain research ?


Thanks for taking time to answere.

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