Shock non chlorine product.

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Permalink Reply by Ann Dunlap on October 2, 2009 at 7:24am

Hi Joan,

The product I recieved with my stones when I bought them is Fresh 'n Clear Spa Treatment. I am not sure how natural it is though. I use a very small amount, just a pinch or so. Hope this helps.

Permalink Reply by Connie McKim on October 2, 2009 at 12:59pm

Where can the Fresh n' Clear be purchased? My coworker uses a capful of alcohol which leaves the stones gritty. What are the disadvantages to using clorox?

Ann Dunlap said:

Hi Joan,

The product I recieved with my stones when I bought them is Fresh 'n Clear Spa Treatment. I am not sure how natural it is though. I use a very small amount, just a pinch or so. Hope this helps.

Permalink Reply by Bruce Baltz on October 11, 2009 at 7:49pm

Joan,

If you run the water at 120 F or higher that will kill most of the bacteria in the water. I have worked with the stones for ten years and been teaching for 8 and have never had a problem the transfer of bacteria from one client to another. I only have skin care specialists wipe of the stones before putting them back in the water because they might work on open skin which massage therapists will not do.

Permalink Reply by Ann Dunlap on October 12, 2009 at 9:09pm

You could probably google the product name and see what you get. I believe the product is used to treat hot tubs. You don't need much, just a pinch for a large roaster, and I think it is relatively inexpensive. It is also good to clean stones after each client. I use a spa glove (dollar store) that can scrub the oil off, along with antibacterial soap and hot water (and rinse). I think of it as giving my stone folk a nice warm bath after a workout.

Permalink Reply by Joan Annunziata on October 13, 2009 at 7:41am

Thanks to all for your suggestions.
I do already use a shock product but I was looking to see if there was something natural to put in the water other than shock or fresh 'n clear. I boil the rocks after I use them for 5 to 10 minutes, let them dry and then lightly oil them with grapeseed oil.
Thanks to all,
Joan

Ann Dunlap said:

You could probably google the product name and see what you get. I believe the product is used to treat hot tubs. You don't need much, just a pinch for a large roaster, and I think it is relatively inexpensive. It is also good to clean stones after each client. I use a spa glove (dollar store) that can scrub the oil off, along with antibacterial soap and hot water (and rinse). I think of it as giving my stone folk a nice warm bath after a workout.

Permalink Reply by rudy m smith on October 15, 2009 at 9:00am

The use of a hydrocolator is appropriate where the stones can be heated to above 225 degrees f. To truly kill bacteria and microorganisms the heat has to be very high. The pourous nature of stones can be a breeding ground. There is an aruvedic oil treatment that drips oil onto a clients head... they catch the oil and re-use it with the belief that the older and more used it becomes the greater it's energy - hmmm - I think we all know better, but still it is what they believe and what they practise. The truth is oil is expensive in many places and they have to conserve their resources.

A quick story: Three women are sitting at thanksgiving table, grandma, mom, and granddaughter... granddaughter asks mom "why do you cut the end off the ham" Mom say "I do it because that's how my mom did it", she turns to her mother and asks "mom why did you cut the end off the ham?" The wise granny replies, "oh that - I did that because I didn't have a pan big enough to cook the ham in."

Balance our touch feel world with some mainstream science and it will keep all of us healthy.

Permalink Reply by Jorge Arnaldo Pabón Acevedo on November 2, 2009 at 9:03pm

Well, I'm just add few drops of Melaleuca's Oil (Tea Tree) or Lavander to the hot water.

Permalink Reply by Stefanie Adams on November 21, 2009 at 12:01am

This is my first post on this forum, so thank you Rudy for the opportunity!

I agree with your concern with contamination on the stones. That's why I use an electric skillet for heating. I boil them at 300 degrees for 15 minutes between each client, then soak them overnight in a 5-to-1 bleach solution.

I use a small stone in each hand to "feel" trigger points and other hypertonicity since it transmits well through the medium. So far I've not experienced the inflammation you've experienced, but I'll keep it in mind.

You bring up a good point. I have just sent a "toe stone" to a qualified laboratory for a complete culture. It's a good test to make sure my methods that are based on scientific principles truly provide the results I desire.

rudy m smith said:

The use of a hydrocolator is appropriate where the stones can be heated to above 225 degrees f. To truly kill bacteria and microorganisms the heat has to be very high. The pourous nature of stones can be a breeding ground. There is an aruvedic oil treatment that drips oil onto a clients head... they catch the oil and re-use it with the belief that the older and more used it becomes the greater it's energy - hmmm - I think we all know better, but still it is what they believe and what they practise. The truth is oil is expensive in many places and they have to conserve their resources.

A quick story: Three women are sitting at thanksgiving table, grandma, mom, and granddaughter... granddaughter asks mom "why do you cut the end off the ham" Mom say "I do it because that's how my mom did it", she turns to her mother and asks "mom why did you cut the end off the ham?" The wise granny replies, "oh that - I did that because I didn't have a pan big enough to cook the ham in."

Balance our touch feel world with some mainstream science and it will keep all of us healthy.

Permalink Reply by Jenny Ray on January 6, 2010 at 4:40pm

Rudy,
So great to see your comments.!! right on!!.....I hope those on this topic have read the input on the discussion titled 'Stone Sanitation..'
I finished the research report with the CDC yesterday...They gave us the thumbs up on our sanitation protocol as out lined on the above mentioned page...also here are some addresses for purchasing quality sanitation products...you can get MCP at www.spaelegance.com and for the Monks Wipes (great for quick wipe downs of all surfaces including stones) http://www.apollosafety.com ...
There is a lot of wisdom in your words about realizing why 'traditions' are in place (the ham/high cost of oil and all that)...We must realize if we do not accept the gifts of modern science then we are not professionals. The only way to walk this fine line between organic holistic wellness and modern western medicine is to have the knowledge to make informed decisions and use our good judgment to protect our clients and our modality. The insurance companies are having problems with our stone work...law suits for burns and improper sanitation have caused some to raise premiums and others to drop the modality from all malpractice coverage...everyone should check to be sure they are fully covered (if you need help with this and additional certification....visit the Geothermal Therapy Association web site ...www.stonewalkersassociation.com ) we must police ourselves or legislation will be passed to protect the public...

rudy m smith said:

The use of a hydrocolator is appropriate where the stones can be heated to above 225 degrees f. To truly kill bacteria and microorganisms the heat has to be very high. The pourous nature of stones can be a breeding ground. There is an aruvedic oil treatment that drips oil onto a clients head... they catch the oil and re-use it with the belief that the older and more used it becomes the greater it's energy - hmmm - I think we all know better, but still it is what they believe and what they practise. The truth is oil is expensive in many places and they have to conserve their resources.

A quick story: Three women are sitting at thanksgiving table, grandma, mom, and granddaughter... granddaughter asks mom "why do you cut the end off the ham" Mom say "I do it because that's how my mom did it", she turns to her mother and asks "mom why did you cut the end off the ham?" The wise granny replies, "oh that - I did that because I didn't have a pan big enough to cook the ham in."

Balance our touch feel world with some mainstream science and it will keep all of us healthy.