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Robert Schleip's article 7 Replies

Started by Stephen Jeffrey. Last reply by Walt Fritz, PT Jun 28, 2011.

Do you have any thoughts on the work of Luigi Stecco ? 11 Replies

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Comment by Paula Nutting on August 31, 2010 at 1:41am
Sorry that it has taken me this long to respond.
If you agree with some of the more recent research into how the muscle is activated or rather how the normal tonus can be affected by manual therapy then applying the same intent during a hands on session can have exremely positive effects on the myofascial and neural tension.
I am both a remedial massage therapist and have a musculoskeletal degree so tend to offer slightly different treatment choices including some kineseological assessment and neuromuscular activation (see Dougal Heel), Improving the muscle length and strength of the core ie diaphragm, psoas, TA, pelvic floor via this process (all soft tissue stimulatory), then looking at sagital, frontal, posterior slings for correction of length and strength makes it far easier to apply the more conventional styles of soft tissue release.
hope this doesnt sound like a whole lot of gobble-d-g***.
cheers
Comment by Boris Prilutsky on August 20, 2010 at 7:47am
Dear Paula.
I will appreciate very much if you will explain further your statement:subtle work using neurotransmitters and other biochemical forms seems to be the way of the future " I mean please explain how this statement related to our profession . To be more precise , please explain your statement in relation to practical applications in massage therapy procedure.up front thank you .
Boris
Comment by Steven David Goldstein on August 20, 2010 at 4:24am
Ah neurotransmitters...manipulation of the ANS and proprioception is the 'art' form for change in soft-tissue...you are so spot on Paula....I'm reading Zachary Comeaux's Harmonic Healing : Facilitated Oscillatory Rhythmic Myofascial Techniques...what an excellent text, especially the lineage of luminaries in osteopathic thought & application....
Comment by Paula Nutting on August 19, 2010 at 11:59pm
Walt are you any relation to Sandy Fritz?
BTW Schleip is a master of research and at the initial Fascial Congress in Boston 2 years ago, the scientists, anatomists and doctors blew a hell of a lot of original empirical theories right out of the water.
subtle work using neurotransmitters and other biochemical forms seems to be the way of the future
Comment by Boris Prilutsky on August 19, 2010 at 8:59pm
Dear Walt.
Thank you very much for offering information. It's kind interesting.
Very difficult to agree with Robert Schleip
Robert Schleip :“Stimulation of these sensory receptors has been shown to lead to a lowering of sympathetic tonus as well as a change in local tissue viscosity”.
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No doubt that soft tissue manipulation stimulating proprioceptors and activating electrical potentials that inhibiting sympathetic activities but fascia release in my opinion cannot be attributing to depression of sympathetic activities because fibers of fascia has no potential to constrict or opposite.
Robert Schleip “Fascia and the autonomic nervous system appear to be intimately connected. “
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I believe that most of organ and system intimately connected to autonomic nervous system therefore power of massage in to balance sympathetic and parasympathetic activities affecting positive all function and conditions but not directly I mean not immediately releasing tension within fascia.

Robert Schleip “Stimulation of fascial mechanoreceptors can trigger viscosity changes in the ground substance. “
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decrease of viscosity in the ground substance can be only partially attributed to” Stimulation of fascial mechanoreceptors” The attribute to decrease in viscosity is to diffusion process that we activating by relaxing muscles as well due to vascular deletions as a result of sympathetic activity depression.
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Robert Schleip “The discovery and implications of the existence of fascial smooth muscle cells ">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm sorry there is no groundbreaking histological studies that will support this statement. And even if some quantity of smooth muscles would be existed within fascia as a matter of fact it's not enough quantities to constrict or relax.
I believe in simple approach to massage therapy and therefore care for any new theory but most important is that a theory must be proven clinically. I mean many of us manipulating successfully fascia by different techniques but with deep understanding that fascia have to be released by being pull mechanically. First concept of connective tissue massage was proposed by German /Austrian scientist Dickle in 1929. Since then Dickle techniques was little adjusted especially techniques for second layer mobilization. For many decades this techniques clinically proven as working. During my career I was witness of many beautiful theory proposals that died as a beautiful theory because clinically couldn't be proved as working theory. New is not always good or right. I believe for our recognition we have to provide safe and sustained results. I strongly believe that for sustained results we have to apply comprehensive soft tissue mobilization that will include muscular/fascia mobilization, adequate trigger point therapy, as well circulatory techniques. Mentioned above techniques could have different various and based on different theory but must serve the same goals.
Don't get me wrong and I'm talking sincerely, my intuition that you and most of the members applaing and teaching techniques that leading to results but with do all respect not based on this new theory. I got to this conclusions mentioned above because I have spent some time to read posts of members /practitioners who successfully practicing including myself this techniques much before this theory was even proposed. Decided to writing this extensively because really care and would love to see that my colleagues will be less excited and distracted by new theories. I must to finish my post by absolutely not political statement. I do believe in your work based on what I have learn from your website including your background. In my opinion you know what you're talking about. My argument was with Robert Schleip theory.
Best wishes and with deepest respect.
Boris
Comment by Walt Fritz, PT on August 19, 2010 at 7:20pm
Boris,

You have a choice when it comes to explaining the principles of MFR. The traditional view, which is pretty much what has been taught for years by dozens of teachers, involves the proposed mechanical properties of fascia. Thumbnail version; stretch the soft tissue (you cannot be selective) through the elastic range until you meet the collagenous barrier. Waiting at this barrier for a sufficient time causes a change in the ground substance, which allows the tissue to lengthen. Following through successive barriers will bring things back to a more neutral tension.

Unfortunately this view has scant evidence to prove it. There is quite a bit of newer research and hypotheses that point toward a neuro-biological explanation. Robert Scheip has been one of the leaders in these theories. He admitted to me that the real explanation probably lies with a combination of the two theories.

If you are interested, I've got much of the available research on my website's research page, www.MyofascialResource.com.
Comment by Larry Warnock on August 19, 2010 at 5:14pm
Myo (msucle) and fascia (connective tissue) hence myofascial release is the process of stretching and lengthening the connective tissue surrounding the muscle. Often the connective tissue is tight, constricting the muscle. When trigger points appear in the fascia, there is contraction, squeezing the muscle into smaller space. Take a hamburger; wrap it in sarah wrap...now you have a myofascial relationship. Even with deep tissue work, one often changes the shape of the fascia. Put your thumb or elbow into the saran wrap...now there is a dent, squeezing the muscle in to smaller space...hence...inflammation.

Myofascial release is the gentle process of stretching the fascial so the muscle it surrounds has the right amount of space. We use MFR often after eliminating trigger points as the slow, gentle stretching that releases everything.

Its nothing new. I worked with Dr. Travel when she was the White House physician under President Kennedy. You should have watched her do MYF after treating trigger points.
Comment by Boris Prilutsky on August 19, 2010 at 3:51pm
Dear Stephen.
Why not to tell what your heart is telling you about this?even in former Soviet Union environment but on professional issues we spoke out. On the other hand (I disagree with you on not speaking out) I do understand and suspect why you don't speak out your heart.if I am wrong please correct me. In America in many cases when you try to open professional discussion or honestly would try to speak out on some professional issues, it's coming out to arguments with no good reason for it. In discussions we can agree or disagree but we all can learn.Marion thank you for providing website address.
I couldn't learn on ART nothing from this site.in my opinion all was about promoting sales of something .again I know nothing about ART and cannot offer my opinion. Maybe this some good approach? The little information was dedicated to little description of strain
something like over worked muscles......... and that ART is basically being massage therapy. If ART is massage therapy why to call new name to it? massage therapy techniques is a soft tissue mobilizations including fascia/ muscles techniques, trigger point therapy and Russian medical massage protocols also including post isometric relaxation techniques.traditionally we call this methodology massage and in my opinion should continue to call it massage.Stephen.we are old friends and due to respect to our friendship I decided not to write to you personally.only true will set us free.
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will appreciate if some body will explain to me the principles of myofascial release. I mean all this years as a part of protocol I am implementing
MFR but in members descriptions and on websites I see different understanding/explanation on principles of MFR.
With deepers respect to all.
Boris
Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on August 19, 2010 at 4:35am
Thanks for the link Marion, "the gold standard in soft tissue release" and patented to boot.
What on earth shall we do ? ...........run to the hills ! :)
Better not put here what my heart is telling me about this.
Comment by Marion McCall on August 18, 2010 at 5:46pm
ART is Active Release techniques, a series of techniques that have been patented. here is a link: http://www.activerelease.com/

Their website states: ART is a patented, state of the art soft tissue system/movement based massage technique that treats problems with muscles, tendons, ligaments, fascia and nerves.

Sounds like a form of MFR to me! I do know that it is very expensive to take ART courses and expensive to maintain your certification. I believe a majority of practitioners are chiropractors.

I like Paula and Larry's approach!
 

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