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use of spray & stretch technique by LMTs 8 Replies

i've been using the spray and stretch technique this year with excellent results in myofascial trigger point cases of acute pain, short appointments with multiple muscle group involvement, and…Continue

Started by Jeff Sims. Last reply by Laura Garza Jun 24, 2012.

Trigger Points, easily eliminated 13 Replies

I can release trigger points anywhere on the body in 20 seconds with only finger tip pressure. Ive said it so many times.. No one believes me. Whatever... This time is that last I will say it..  Ive…Continue

Started by Gordon J. Wallis. Last reply by Shawnda Kettles Dec 7, 2011.

Observing breathing pattern disorders in the most chronic TP affected client. 1 Reply

My observation is those that are belly breathers are the worst.Do you do any diaphram release work and give corrective breathing advice? if so what do you ask your clients to do.? SteveContinue

Started by Stephen Jeffrey. Last reply by Dr. Ross Turchaninov Nov 4, 2011.

Follow up to the trigger point article

We observed so many misunderstanding in regard to trigger points and trigger point therapy that we decided to address them all at the same time in special article in the new issue of Journal of…Continue

Started by Dr. Ross Turchaninov Oct 26, 2011.

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Comment by Jeff Sims on August 27, 2011 at 3:02pm
Second edition, volume 1, page 151, references manual vs. injection techniques. I don't have access to a first edition, but believe Dr. Travell advocated manual techniques and not just injection; she used spray and stretch as well Boris.
Comment by Nancy L. Ring on August 25, 2011 at 10:17pm
Actually I am going through nursing to work on the contradictions like sprains and such that they say we can't do. RN's are allowed under direct supervision of a doctor just like botox. I am learning much more to the human body by going to school. I am beginning to see why they complain and want us licensed. What you have to learn to do nursing in my opinion is harder than pre-med. Most hospitals won't allow a MT in the labor room to do pregnancy massage or allow us to work on an incision that isn't healed. As a nurse, I can. I am hoping to bring a better light on our profession by going to nursing school. I think we need bridges.
Comment by Boris Prilutsky on August 25, 2011 at 8:45pm

Hi Larry.

Good to know that you are Dr. Travell's student.really regret that I never had an opportunity to meet this woman, but pretty familiar with her works,including Travell & Simon's Myofacial Pain and Dysfunction  Manual.in my opinion it is great  books,but Travell & Simon never advocate TPs therapy by hands/ fingers.am I right?if not please extend little bit on it. Thanks.

Boris

Comment by Larry Warnock on August 25, 2011 at 8:30pm
I never attended nursing school but am a pretty good therapist and can deal with scar tissue, etc.  I learned a lot from Dr. Travell herself.. .and, yes, lets try to keep this forum professional...so many people join these sites just to sell stuff.  We should keep that to a minimum. 
Comment by Boris Prilutsky on August 25, 2011 at 6:41pm

Hi Nancy.

I didn't  question if you are professional massage therapist. Just did reply to what you have said:"We are learning to bust them with a syringe."(I am assuming that word" bust" means treating/to address)

I mean massage therapist do not addressing trigger points by injections.in some particular cases nurse practitioner can inject TPs but not RNs.. most of MD ,strained not to inject in cases of myogelosis,including Travell & Simon's Myofacial Pain and Dysfunction  Manual ,do not proposing to inject in cases of myogelosis.I believe that any massage therapist, who trained in orthopedic massage can provide treatment in case of scar tissue management, sprains, strains,with out attending RN program.You are right, we shouldn't argue, but all of us on this site, must to try to provide information related to us. We can agree or disagree, but shouldn't argue.let's keep this site on good professional level. Good luck with school.

Boris

Comment by Nancy L. Ring on August 25, 2011 at 5:49pm
I am a professional massage therapist and I am trained in NMT. I have Travell & Simon's Myofacial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger Point Manual volumes 1&2. I am going to school for my RN degree so I can work on scars, sprains, strains and everything else that other massage therapist can't work on. I am taking my education and professionalism to a new level.  I won't get into any debates with you as to what Dr. Travell did or didn't do. The book speaks for itself.
Comment by Boris Prilutsky on August 25, 2011 at 12:49am

Nancy.this site is for professional massage therapist,and when we providing treatment  we do not using injections but utilizing our hands and fingers.

Dr.Travell  as well any other medical doctors never injected any substance into myogelosis.this ones who did so, caused a lot  pain and aggravation to already painful myogelosis.BTW.Dr.Travell never ever did  advocate ,addressing TPs by massage techniques.

Best wishes.

Boris

Comment by Nancy L. Ring on August 24, 2011 at 8:27pm
We are learning to bust them with a syringe. The same way Janet Travell talks about. That is what they do.
Comment by Boris Prilutsky on August 24, 2011 at 12:24am

Hi Nancy.

Actually respectfully I have to disagree with nursing class teaching.myogelosis is not really muscles anymore as well to apply pressure or otherwise to stimulate myogelosis is contraindicated.

Attempt to address myogelosis by any means will cause significant pain increase , more hypertonus  developments within neighboring not affected muscles etc.in proposed articles we offered definition of TPs  including morphology.

Best wishes.

Boris

Comment by Nancy L. Ring on August 22, 2011 at 3:43pm
From my nursing classes I have learned they are called myogelosis and are an abnormal hardening of the muscle.
 

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