Trigger Points

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Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on October 4, 2009 at 3:24pm

Have you seen this article by J Muscolino.relating to deep stroking of TPs and the use/duration of Ishemic compression.
http://www.learnmuscles.com/mtj%20TrP%20article%20-%201-08.pdf
I do use deep stroking but after leaving the area for 5+ minutes will return to apply ishemic pressure to the TP up to 8, on a 1 to 10 scale as the muscle "melts" over a 5 to 25 second period. 90% of the time never needing to go above a 4 on a 1 to 10 scale.
The article sugguests as the TP is already ishemic, yet more ishemic pressure is not needed ?
What do you think? what is your method?
Regards steve

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on September 30, 2009 at 6:49pm

Hi Henry, have you got any research evidence re nutritional factors you can share with us?
I am only aware of the Ischemic and ADP crisis theorys.
Regards steve

Comment by Alfred Ball on September 30, 2009 at 12:54am

I have know about trigger points for almost 10 years, but have only really begun to explore and learn more about them professionally in the last 2 years. Great to see all the different perspectives.

Comment by Alfred Ball on September 30, 2009 at 12:49am

Henry - it is vital that clients change their habits, though sometimes it is very difficult eg, perpetuating factors can be due occupation or sport.
What do people know about the nutritional component to Trigger Point Relief? I am doing some research and want to write more about it. I feel it is an often neglected topic.

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on September 29, 2009 at 5:42am

Hi Henry thats very interesting what you say about spray and stretch.To have that personel experience of treatment is vital.
Do you have any particular TP method you prefere?
Regards steve

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on September 27, 2009 at 6:10am

http://www.articlesbase.com/alternative-medicine-articles/trigger-point-therapy-85527.html
This is the direct link to the article to which I refered earlier. I hope you find it as interesting as I did.
The age of the triggerpoint can directly relate to its release/referal potential.
New triggerpoints can melt away in one session. The older they get the more in crisis the muscle = the more fibrotic the fibers become, spreading along the length of the muscle. Cross fiber friction works well with this condition. Keep in mind you are treating a condition that may have taken years to build up and as Chris has already mentioned you wont see immediate results at the end of the session. This is because the theraputic inflamation induced by cross fiber friction takes time ( days sometimes weeks ) to remove the fibrotic condition, ( I allow at least a week between sessions) each session should see improvement that is easily palpated.
The treatment is safe and effective but be carefull not to overtreat the area (especially with new clients) as a certain level of soreness is to be expected. On occasion you may have a client who finds the crossfiber element nausiating or the site holds strong links to a emotional crisis to which they are not yet ready to release. In these cases a more gentle approach is more appropiate.
Regards steve

Comment by Carma Nibarger on September 24, 2009 at 9:13pm

also- what's the difference between a regular old knot and a trigger point- anything else besides referred pain?

Comment by Carma Nibarger on September 24, 2009 at 8:40pm

anybody know of any good TP CEU classes in the midwest- Milwaukee, Chicago, Indianapolis? I know embarrassingly little about trigger points- how they originate in the body... is it more muscular overuse, improper posture, tension holding patterns, psychological stress manifest, all of the above??? And I'm really eager to learn more.
Oh! So, I had something kind of strange happen. I was working on a client- in the traps between spine and scap on her right side, when I guess I hit a trigger point, because she could feel the referred sensation on her left arm-hand. Any ideas what might have been going on?

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on September 22, 2009 at 3:16pm

Hi all, my findings over last 10yrs = yes you will be able to eradicate 70 to 90%
of TPs depending on your methodology and the age of the TP. this is the most sucessfull and rewarding part of my massage practice.
The TPs that wont respond that drive me nuts I understand to be called myogelosis.This is the hardened dead nucleous of an aged TP. Please see Boris Prilutsky's article in arcticalbase.
Regards steve

Comment by Alex Savelev on September 21, 2009 at 5:01pm

Nuts it's not TP
Muscular pain or any kind nuts possible after injuries or bad postural habits, also possible secondary dysfunctions: like injury on one side and body trying protect and overuse muscles on other side, in time there developed nuts because muscles there never relaxed, tight muscles compromised lymphatic circulation and finaly build nuts.
With nuts good if you warming up area before work, increase circulation by deep massage area compression help to if applied not direct on nut, but on mayo fibers below or above to nut, so you pull mayo filaments away from nut, stretching muscles belly (not tendons!)

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