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I had a new client the other day for an 80 minute massage. I asked him if there is anything that he wanted me to know. He told me that he suffers from a herniated disc that he has had for a few years. He has constant low back and right hip pain that at times radiates down the back of his leg to his knee. He told me that he has had two injections in his low back and has to stay on anit- inflamtory medication. Anything to avoid surgery. The pain is always there. I asked him if he ever saw a chiropractor for his pain. He said yes. But the adjustments hurt his hip so bad that he could not continiue. So here is a guy that thinks he is on the verge of surgery. I knew that there was a very strong probubllity that was not the case. The vast majority of pain people experience is nocioceptive pain( soft tissue- muscle, tendon, ligament, facia). MDs and Chiropractors see pain as neuropathic pain( nerve pain). With that asumption they give the wrong treatments and therapies. Now there is no denying that at times injections and surgery is needed. Not denying that. But most of the time - NOT. 70% to 85% of all pain comes directly from trigger points. Anyway I showed my client a testimonial from a client that I was able to help out of a very painful condition that she had delt with for a couple of years. I showed him that testimonial because all pain has a psychological eliment too it. I wanted him to start thinking maybe he is not on the edge of surgery. I palpated his entire back upper torso, both hips, and right leg. I found a very painful spot on his right L5 erectors. Another very painful spot on his right greater trochantor. A painful spot in the middle part of his lower right hamstrings. And also a tender spot on the right spinous of L3. I knew that if Iwas able to eliminate all those painful palaptory spots that I would most likely eliminate his pain problem. Because a healthy body had no painful spots even with deep massage. Ive been hunting and eliminateing trigger points for thirty years now. He walked out of the massage room pain free. He was pain free for the first time in years. All those other professional people misdiagnosed him because they assume neuropathic pain over nocioceptive pain. I assume the other way around. I'm a Massage Therapist.
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IDK but think not so much similar. Rossiter is about stretching. The Voodoo banding is about occlusion-- nearly completely shutting off circulation into the arm, knee, shoulder, so that normal low intensity fibers are effectively shut down, causing recruitment of fibers that only come into play for maximum effort (such as one-rep bench press or squat). But since the compression is shutting down most of the blood fueling normal mvmt, dangerous maximum weights or whatever don't have to be used. Pros and colleges are using this occlusion therapy for serious muscle, ligament, tendon injuries.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11858977/tourniquet-training-chan...
Be sure to read the article about the therapy.
Gordon J. Wallis said:No worries about hijacking the thread. That's good news Gary. It sounds kinda like this concept. Www.therossitersystem.com. I use my own version of that voodoo banding on my forearms by clamping my muscles with my other hand and rotating my clamped wrist and forearms.
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Highly skilled and long-experience MTs should be grandfathered in when a state first votes in state licensing.
Gordon J. Wallis said:Another off subject. I just found out ,because of these new Alaska massage laws, I have to take one of those certification exams. The MBLEX or NCEMTMB/NCETM. My perspective, those exams are responsible for keeping our profession from meeting its maximum potential. All the money that I've put out ( license fees )and the time waisted memorizing things for an exam , plus the cost of the continiuing education requirements and exam, has all but stopped my real learning. Thank God this happened near the end of my career. I wonder how many trigger point questions they will have on those exams? I don't know. No one else that I know seems to be bothered by all this? I just see the world differently. Oh, the other thing that gets me is this. Structural integration people don't need a massage license here in Alaska. When I inquired why? I was told they work with fascia.
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It would be one thing if those exams imparted any information that had value on a practical level. Everything I've done over the last 30 years has nothing to do with anything on that exam. It Imparts a false sense of skill and knowledge. In reality it dumbs you down and limits your thinking. Leads you on a false path. I could write an exam that would actually enhance the skill set of any massage therapist that passed it. And trust me, everyone would pass it. And if the schools taught to my exam, there would soon be no more chiropractors.
Gary W Addis, LMT said:
Highly skilled and long-experience MTs should be grandfathered in when a state first votes in state licensing.
Gordon J. Wallis said:Another off subject. I just found out ,because of these new Alaska massage laws, I have to take one of those certification exams. The MBLEX or NCEMTMB/NCETM. My perspective, those exams are responsible for keeping our profession from meeting its maximum potential. All the money that I've put out ( license fees )and the time waisted memorizing things for an exam , plus the cost of the continiuing education requirements and exam, has all but stopped my real learning. Thank God this happened near the end of my career. I wonder how many trigger point questions they will have on those exams? I don't know. No one else that I know seems to be bothered by all this? I just see the world differently. Oh, the other thing that gets me is this. Structural integration people don't need a massage license here in Alaska. When I inquired why? I was told they work with fascia. - Attachments:
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it's a fake grandfather clause. It's only for the transition period that the exam is waved. And I qualified for that. But as of July 1, 2017 everyone has to meet the exam and education requirements, including those that qualified for the transition period. . I have plenty of time to study. And I have been. But it really shows me, and I knew this already after 30 years, how disconnected those exams are from the real knowledge needed for our profession to advance above an average income of $33,000.00 a year.. Anyways, thank you for thinking of me. it just bums me out that after doing this kind of work for over 30 years, they are making me do this. Haven't I proved my skill set already? No credit what so ever? It's just a money making deal for various groups. Nobody really cares about our profession or realizes its potential in the health care industry. And that's exactly why I write in here. I'm healing people that other highly educated, highly paid medical professionals have failed to help. What I'm doing could easily, to a great deal anyway, be imparted on a written exam. That along with a practical hands on exam......There would be no more chiropractors. Our profession is no where close to its maximum potential. Those exams are one of the main stumbling blocks.
Pueppi Texas said:Gordon J. Wallis said: I just found out ,because of these new Alaska massage laws, I have to take one of those certification exams. The MBLEX or NCEMTMB/NCETM.
I am not from Alaska, but this may help you track down something that could help you on grandfathering. From ABMP in 2014 (https://www.abmp.com/news/new-alaska-massage-therapy-licensing-law) " --- (2) Licensure Requirements for Current Practitioners (Grandfathering). Anyone who applies for their license before July 1, 2017 can qualify by grandfathering by showing that they owned, operated, or worked for a massage therapy business and performed the practice of massage therapy before July 1, 2017.
And, from: https://www.commerce.alaska.gov/web/cbpl/ProfessionalLicensing/Boar...
"Effective July 1, 2015 licensure is required for all practitioners of massage therapy in the State of Alaska. A transitional period which waives the exam and education requirements for massage therapists who meet certain requirements is available from July 1, 2015 to July 2017. Effective July 1, 2017 all practitioners must meet exam and education requirements."
It appears there is a grandfather clause, it's just that one had to meet the requirements to jump on board. Maybe that will help.
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Rossiter is about occlusion. As an example , they will stand on your forearm as you move your wrist and fingers. Gary W Addis, LMT said:IDK but think not so much similar. Rossiter is about stretching. The Voodoo banding is about occlusion-- nearly completely shutting off circulation into the arm, knee, shoulder, so that normal low intensity fibers are effectively shut down, causing recruitment of fibers that only come into play for maximum effort (such as one-rep bench press or squat). But since the compression is shutting down most of the blood fueling normal mvmt, dangerous maximum weights or whatever don't have to be used. Pros and colleges are using this occlusion therapy for serious muscle, ligament, tendon injuries.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11858977/tourniquet-training-chan...
Be sure to read the article about the therapy.
Gordon J. Wallis said:No worries about hijacking the thread. That's good news Gary. It sounds kinda like this concept. Www.therossitersystem.com. I use my own version of that voodoo banding on my forearms by clamping my muscles with my other hand and rotating my clamped wrist and forearms.
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You guys. Check out my YouTube page if ya haven't already.
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I've gotten two different answers about my having to take the exam or not? Communicating with the Alaska state massage board and getting answeres is not as easy as it should be. It took them nine months to approve my license. I emailed them a week ago and still have not heard back. I talked to an instructor at a local massage school that says she knows someone on the board, and that I do have to take the exam. Something so simple shouldn't be so confusing. You can't just pick up the iPhone and call em.
Gordon J. Wallis said:
it's a fake grandfather clause. It's only for the transition period that the exam is waved. And I qualified for that. But as of July 1, 2017 everyone has to meet the exam and education requirements, including those that qualified for the transition period. . I have plenty of time to study. And I have been. But it really shows me, and I knew this already after 30 years, how disconnected those exams are from the real knowledge needed for our profession to advance above an average income of $33,000.00 a year.. Anyways, thank you for thinking of me. it just bums me out that after doing this kind of work for over 30 years, they are making me do this. Haven't I proved my skill set already? No credit what so ever? It's just a money making deal for various groups. Nobody really cares about our profession or realizes its potential in the health care industry. And that's exactly why I write in here. I'm healing people that other highly educated, highly paid medical professionals have failed to help. What I'm doing could easily, to a great deal anyway, be imparted on a written exam. That along with a practical hands on exam......There would be no more chiropractors. Our profession is no where close to its maximum potential. Those exams are one of the main stumbling blocks.
Pueppi Texas said:Gordon J. Wallis said: I just found out ,because of these new Alaska massage laws, I have to take one of those certification exams. The MBLEX or NCEMTMB/NCETM.
I am not from Alaska, but this may help you track down something that could help you on grandfathering. From ABMP in 2014 (https://www.abmp.com/news/new-alaska-massage-therapy-licensing-law) " --- (2) Licensure Requirements for Current Practitioners (Grandfathering). Anyone who applies for their license before July 1, 2017 can qualify by grandfathering by showing that they owned, operated, or worked for a massage therapy business and performed the practice of massage therapy before July 1, 2017.
And, from: https://www.commerce.alaska.gov/web/cbpl/ProfessionalLicensing/Boar...
"Effective July 1, 2015 licensure is required for all practitioners of massage therapy in the State of Alaska. A transitional period which waives the exam and education requirements for massage therapists who meet certain requirements is available from July 1, 2015 to July 2017. Effective July 1, 2017 all practitioners must meet exam and education requirements."
It appears there is a grandfather clause, it's just that one had to meet the requirements to jump on board. Maybe that will help.
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Gordon, according to the regs that board approved and the State Legislature accepted when they passed the bill, you do not have to take the exam: you have been practicing there in AK for a long while, so absolutely you should be grandfathered in. Don't they have a tele number you can call? You may have already been approved and they haven't gotten around to notifying people. Remember, that's what happened to me with mine, it took them 11 months to get the license to me though it had been issued 7 months before-- and then only when one of the Board members made a call to them for me.
Try doing a websearch, see if you can get the names of the members, especially any who live and practice in your hometown. I'm guerssing they will stretch it out months longer, then send out batches of licenses all at once.
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I just recieved my license. I have names and numbers. But I can only get a hold of clerks that say. I believe you do have to take the exam? I've sent emails out and have recieved no answers yet. Like I said. Out of frustration I called one of the massage schools here in Anchorage and asked to talk to anyone there that was knowledgeable about the massage laws. The instructor I talked too that knows one of the board members, said I have to take that exam before July 2017 in order for my license to be renewed.
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I still say that is just legally dead wrong: Yeah, the wording is as confusing as a Donald Trump speech. But really, I think that last sentence in the excerpt Pueppi posted (" Effective July 1, 2017 all practitioners must meet exam and education requirements") was intended for brand new applicants who don't meet the requirements for the grandfather waiver. But, hell, legislative bills can be 10,000 pages of gobble gobble that could be condensed to 10 words.
Gordon, does the license have an expiration date of July 2017, or later? If the expiration date isn't next year, IMO you are fully licensed for the, what, the two year license term.
Now, about the CEUs. Some state make you send in copies of the certificates for attending/paying; some take your word for but with the understanding they can demand the paperwork on normal inspections.
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Yea it expires next year 30 September 2017. So maybe I don't have to take those exams. But something tells me I better find out for sure. One thing for sure. The people running this licensing deal, are not very good at their job.
Gary W Addis, LMT said:I still say that is just legally dead wrong: Yeah, the wording is as confusing as a Donald Trump speech. But really, I think that last sentence in the excerpt Pueppi posted (" Effective July 1, 2017 all practitioners must meet exam and education requirements") was intended for brand new applicants who don't meet the requirements for the grandfather waiver. But, hell, legislative bills can be 10,000 pages of gobble gobble that could be condensed to 10 words.
Gordon, does the license have an expiration date of July 2017, or later? If the expiration date isn't next year, IMO you are fully licensed for the, what, the two year license term.
Now, about the CEUs. Some state make you send in copies of the certificates for attending/paying; some take your word for but with the understanding they can demand the paperwork on normal inspections.
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In a way, this off topic subject fits right into this thread. I've said many times that our education system needs to change if our profession is ever able to earn its rightful place in the medical field and make more money then an average income of $33,000.00.( After all the pain industry in this country is a 630 billion dollar a year industry ). And those exams are directly responsible for keeping our profession down. " Truth is often hidden...Like a shadow in darkness." The schools teach for the exams. I don't care what you say. They do. And there is virtually nothing on those exams about trigger points. Trigger points are directly responsible for 85% of all pain on the planet. And it's within our license to make trigger points go away. There is a false reality governing our profession. We should be leaders, experts at helping people out of pain. The go to guys. If they are hurting but have no trigger points. Then they should be refered to someone else. And I don't think that "someone else" would be a chiropractor. I'm attaching a testimonial you have seen several times on this thread. She was told that she needed surgery for her nerve pain( it was a trigger point in her quads ). And she was going to physical therapy for over a year because of shoulder pain. I'm not posting it to show how great I am. I posting it because she had TRIGGER POINTS..
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